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Post by eon5 on Mar 25, 2006 13:19:18 GMT
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Post by Charlie Huang on Mar 25, 2006 16:02:20 GMT
Yes, it's correct.
Be careful though. Tying the knot is harder for the thicker strings, especially pulling it tight. I'd practice on some very stiff wire or string to get the hang of it first. I usually have to put the string through a small hole in a wooden board to pull the knot tight. Also, I now wrap some clear tape at the end of the extra bit where you cut off the knot to stop it from fraying; makes it look more nicer. At first, your knots will look ugly and frayed from all the sweat and abuse you put it through, but eventually, your knots will look slick and clean like mines do now. I would also suggest you tie the knots to all your strings, re-coil them then stick them back in their packaging. That way, when a string breaks, you just need to get out a new, already knotted string out of a packet and re-string it without the hassle of tying the knot in the middle of practice/performance.
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Post by eon5 on Mar 25, 2006 17:47:16 GMT
ty ! The stringset is named YueZhiYang Musical Instruments Industrythe strings have 2 "sides" one entorched with metal (that ends in a hole ----0 ) the another side entorched with a purple cord which side i must knot ? im an ignorant sorry  |
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Post by Charlie Huang on Mar 25, 2006 20:12:46 GMT
Purple cord (wrapping) ones are not as good as a professional set (which is white).
The end you must tie into a knot is the end with the shorter wrapping. The end with the hoop and have a long length of wrapping is the end you wrap around the goose feet.
Also when tying the knot, you must make sure that you tie it in such a way that the plastic string body touches the yueshan on contact and not the wrapped bit. The wrapping is there to stop the string end from uncoiling and also to help tie the knot.
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Post by eon5 on Mar 26, 2006 1:47:07 GMT
ty ! i know it isnt a professional set... but im a begginer im still in the darknest... sorry in this set... the end with the hoop have a shorter length the end with purple wrapping have a long length must i tying the knot with the purple side ? |
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Post by Charlie Huang on Mar 26, 2006 10:16:45 GMT
 That can't be right... Maybe they made it the other way round (defo not pro strings)? Anyways, do what I said, but the opposite. Knot the loop end and wrap the purple end on the goose feet. Either that, or post a pic of the string here for me to analyse. |
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Post by eon5 on Mar 26, 2006 14:19:01 GMT
ok... im trying it
the loop end is hard to knot (is thick)...
the purple end is thin
ty !
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Post by Charlie Huang on Mar 26, 2006 16:11:58 GMT
I am puzzled... It's best to photo it and stick it here for me to see if you can.
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Post by eon5 on Mar 26, 2006 16:42:01 GMT
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Post by Charlie Huang on Mar 26, 2006 16:58:21 GMT
That is weird. The loop end should have a long length of wrapped silk so that it can grip the goose feet adequately... Looking at the pics, the purple end is definately the bit where you should tie the knot, not the loop end which should be wrapped around the goose feet!
Definately, the strings aren't very good by the looks of those pics. The colour should be greyish white. Of course, I can't tell anything else without actually examining the strings in person. I would require a pic of the packet where the strings came in to investigate further. Plus, details of where you got them from.
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Post by eon5 on Mar 26, 2006 17:25:47 GMT
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Post by Charlie Huang on Mar 26, 2006 23:56:29 GMT
From CCN? That must be the standard set for sure. The pro set they sell is the Shanghai Conservatory brand, which is best on the market in my books. I would suggest you get the professional set (even if you're a beginner) because you can always complain about the price of a decent qin, but there is no excuse for not getting a good set of strings. I'm planning to get the standard set from CCN, but not to use, only to compare.
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Post by eon5 on Mar 27, 2006 1:28:59 GMT
<there is no excuse for not getting a good set of strings> ahahaha... ok ok next priority... professional set !  tie the knot in the purple end with my fingers is a very hard work ! must i use a clamp !? *sigh* |
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Post by Charlie Huang on Mar 27, 2006 17:24:02 GMT
You should use hands only! A clamp will either damage the wrapping or the string!
I find it helps if you sharply bend the string at the point where it bends, then it won't string up all over the place. Also, you have to try and do it as tight as possible when it comes to slipping the loop over the main knot (first pic; fig. 6). If you don't, the string near the knot will bend and sometimes get nicks. Bending the string too much also creates gaps in the coiling allowing moisture to seep into the string and rush the inner core wire.
My first few knots were ugly and the first string was damaged through my constant adjustments. But after a few practices, they look nice and refined.
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Post by eon5 on Mar 28, 2006 1:58:15 GMT
nice tips
im trying its
ty !
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