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Post by YouLanFengChune on Feb 17, 2005 3:44:59 GMT
Cadenza has set up a small online music library. All are welcome to view and download. www.cadenzamusic.biz |
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Post by davidmdahl on Feb 17, 2005 6:52:05 GMT
I am not able to get any of the scores. Are the links incorrect, or is www.diyun.com just down? This is very intriguing. I look forward to seeing the scores. I admit that some sort of English translations of the titles would make the library more useful for me. Is there any chance of that? Best wishes, David Dahl Portland, Oregon USA |
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Post by paulv on Feb 17, 2005 14:18:08 GMT
Hi David,
I got into the site and checked out the first score. The jpeg image was really small. I did manage to expand it enough to make it more readable to an older crowd (like me!) without it losing a whole lot of resolution.
Regards,
Paul Valente
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Post by calden on Feb 17, 2005 14:44:03 GMT
Cadenza has set up a small online music library. All are welcome to view and download. www.cadenzamusic.bizWow! Thank you! But.. Weishenme meiyou erhu de? I looked at a few tunes and can adapt to the erhu easily enough - that's one of the things I love about the trad notation - but would like to see some selections for erhu. But no complaints, just a wish. The time it took to scan and put these up is much appreciated. Thanks again. What a great resource. I'd been looking for something like this. Carlos |
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Feb 17, 2005 15:43:54 GMT
Hi!
I'm trying to source out more srtuff for erhu. Please be patient, and I'm sure It'll be coming soon.
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Post by calden on Feb 17, 2005 16:20:37 GMT
Hi! I'm trying to source out more srtuff for erhu. Please be patient, and I'm sure It'll be coming soon. YouLanFengChune: Thanks a lot. Even what you've put up so far is a great service. I promise to be patient. It's not like I don't have books of erhu stuff already. I just love paging through and adding new tunes to my repertoire. Carlos |
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Feb 17, 2005 17:09:15 GMT
Calden!
Will upload the resopurces..
give me 48 hours as i havve 2 concerts in the next 24 hours... save me!
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Post by Dick on Feb 17, 2005 18:30:17 GMT
The library catalog on cadenza.biz looks impressive, and I look forward to checking out the scores. So far, alas, like David I was not able to connect with files at the target site www.diyun.com. What's the story there? |
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Post by davidmdahl on Feb 17, 2005 18:41:26 GMT
I am unable to access www.diyun.com from my personal Comcast.net broadband account, but there is no problem from my work account. I suppose that I can download the scores at work and email zip files to anyone else who has connection problems with diyun.com. Best wishes, David Dahl |
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Post by paulv on Feb 17, 2005 21:08:48 GMT
All,
I already downloaded the first two columns of the dizi scores. I'd be happy to zip what I have and also send it out. I thought about putting the images in a MS-Word document for completeness, but I don't have time to do that -- sorry.
Regards
Paul Valente
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Post by Dick on Feb 17, 2005 21:24:27 GMT
Cool  That's a mighty generous offer, Paul. How big would the zip be? Are you thinking to send out emails, or are you considering posting on another web site? |
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Post by davidmdahl on Feb 18, 2005 0:48:57 GMT
Cool That's a mighty generous offer, Paul. How big would the zip be? Are you thinking to send out emails, or are you considering posting on another web site? I downloaded all but a few that errored out. The total size for the dizi scores is about 14 MB and about 2.5 MB for the xiao scores. That would be a pretty large email. <g> I will see if I can find space elsewhere on the web to host the files, unless Paul already has that covered. Best wishes, David Dahl |
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Feb 18, 2005 1:16:09 GMT
Save the space!
I have 100 plus erhu pieces coming up in these days. I'll be sourcing for more things.
Note that these are traditional pieces, and already are widely published, hence, we do not infringe any copyright by sharing them this way
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Feb 18, 2005 2:22:07 GMT
Latest update...
We have 100 more erhu pieces, plus we added resources on Guqin, Guzheng, pipa nad orchestral work in the A/V section.
Some matters:
!) please DO NOT "openly" complile and share. Copyright laws has it that if you copy less than 10% of a bok, its not infringement. So if u send by chapters, its safe.
2) Cadenza is starting a CD store. We are in talks with HUGO, who carry the best of Chinese music CDs. Please take a look at our products page, and tell us what you think, price, service etc.
ALL CDS SHIP FREE! However, please do not buy yet. Official launches will be very soon. hmmm.. I might ask Carlos to advertise for usa. It will be cheaper than ANY store u see, selling HUGO Cds, in-line with our ideas of promoting PROPER Traditional music.
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Post by asharpe on Feb 18, 2005 2:45:37 GMT
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Feb 18, 2005 3:09:29 GMT
thats a good list.
see the wonder of technology?
All the more, people should not sell boks for 30++ especially, when they are readily available.
Thanks andrew!
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Post by Dick on Feb 18, 2005 16:03:40 GMT
Andrew -- that is indeed a great list. Thanks so much for sharing.
There is a lot of good music at myscore.org, and also a lot of pop etc that I don't care about so much. If I didn't have a fluent reader of Chinese to point out which parts of the site are classical and traditional, I would be lost there. I communicated with the owners of the site to find out what software they use to create their scores. It's some MSWindows PC score maker deal, therefore not memorable to me (but I'll look it up if anyone wants to know). Anyhow, I love that many (most?) of the scores there show both jian pu and wu xian pu together. Their whole deal is making public domain scores broadly available, and they welcome contributions, so anybody that's putting together high quality (pdf or gif are probably best) scores should get in communication with them.
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Post by Dick on Feb 18, 2005 16:15:28 GMT
Copyright laws has it that if you copy less than 10% of a bok, its not infringement. So if u send by chapters, its safe. Thanks for that tip. Can you please explain the relationship of your cadenza.biz with www.diyun.com and asp.7i24.com ? The list of links on the cadenza library page carries a copyright notation, but it doesn't state what permission arrangements you have with those who did the scans, or the publisher of the original books. So do you mean to warn us against violating cadenza's rights, or diyun and 7i24? |
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Feb 18, 2005 17:04:18 GMT
I meant the copyrights of the original book.
Cadenza merely links to their files, and by the laws, its not illegal to link to any public file.
The copyright is not theirs too. It stays with the composer and the publisher. By downloading, its similar to phtocopying. if u only copy 10% or less, its A OKIE!
Hmm... Cadenza's aim is consolidate all these files, and make it easier to find. These pieces were not selected wholesale, but we ensure that these pieces are verified to be graded pieces. In fact, these pieces are the EXAMINABLE pieces if you were in conservatory. YOU Must clear at least 50% of these pieces if you were to enter, hence stating their importance.
Hence reintating we are for PROPER Traditional music. hehehe... MIN HUIFEN and many other maestro class performers recently slammed the 12 girl band. Well, thats improper by tradtional standards...
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Post by Dick on Feb 18, 2005 20:12:38 GMT
Sorry to be dense  but you sort of lost me at the turn in your last sentence there. The antecedent to THAT is ambiguous. Or maybe it's just my ignorance of the content of those "traditional standards" you make reference to. Do you mean the "slamming" of 12 girls by maestro class performers is IMPROPER? Or are you saying the 12 girls themselves are IMPROPER? |
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Feb 18, 2005 22:21:14 GMT
Haha, I'm too tired.
The 12 girls are considered IMPROPER.
At the very least of performance, lets say intonation and musicality, i would think the 12 girls have none.
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Post by Charlie Huang on Feb 18, 2005 22:47:29 GMT
I listened to some 12 girls stuff and they are incredibly difficult to listen to without having suicidal tendencies on mind... The Chinese New Year celebrations last year (2004) played a track of them doing a Western piece as background music for a performance, and even the English people went 'oh no' at the noise that created.
*cringes*
Oh, and a very helpful library that is. I recognised some material.
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Post by asharpe on Feb 19, 2005 0:23:22 GMT
Yes, I noticed that there were no 12 Girl numbers in this year's Spring Festival (from Beijing). However, one number had a few girls with western violins gyrating around (in the back of the stage), and I thought for a moment that it *was* the 12 Girls, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't.
No traditional music in this year's show; you'd think in 4 1/2 hours, they could have had one piece. The closest they had was an erhu piece during one of the skits about a guy too scared to tell off a neighbor.
There was a "martial arts" song that had Jackie Chan singing -- not too bad, but why?
Andrew
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Post by davidmdahl on Feb 19, 2005 0:36:04 GMT
Boy, talk about thread drift! <g> I don't object to fusions like that of the 12 Girls Band, only when that sort is marketed as traditional. In Pop music, it does not matter so much what you play, just that you look good doing it. It is not really fair to judge them by trad. standards.
I do prefer traditional music, played traditionally, but I have enjoyed new music played traditionally as well. Sometimes new music played sort of traditionally can be good when a lot of good taste is used. Music's appeal to me often depends on the nature of its heart. I definitely prefer a trad. heart to Pop. I cringe when I hear trad tunes that I love played with a rhythm machine and cheezy synthesizers.
I will enjoy looking through the posted tunes. At my skill level on erhu, it may be a challenge to find something that I can actually play.
Best wishes,
David Dahl
Portland, Oregon
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Post by Dick on Feb 19, 2005 1:08:33 GMT
In Pop music, it does not matter so much what you play, just that you look good doing it. It is not really fair to judge them by trad. standards. Maybe unfair, but certainly somewhere the other side of irrelevant, I would say. Whatever those still unarticulated standards are. Agreed, we've pretty much done that kill-all-the-synthesizers thing to death here. As far as I can tell, 12 girls don't pretend to be anything other than what they are. I've heard enough of what they do to know I don't care for their stuff. But why slam, whine, cringe, or complain? Who cares, I just tune them right out. That's why I didn't get YouLanFengChune's comment about purported maestri bashing them. How undignified is that? What next, Tang Jun Qiang in a hair-pulling bout with Britanny Spears? Man, I hope not. Life is just too short. |
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That's a mighty generous offer, Paul. How big would the zip be? Are you thinking to send out emails, or are you considering posting on another web site?
but you sort of lost me at the turn in your last sentence there. The antecedent to THAT is ambiguous. Or maybe it's just my ignorance of the content of those "traditional standards" you make reference to.