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Post by sanmenxia on Feb 4, 2006 23:24:15 GMT
In the UK, the use of "Master" as a title for boys and young men is now a bit old fashioned, it's hardly used nowadays and then only for very formal purposes, I don't know about other English speaking countries. There's a joke about Mr and Mrs Bates who had a son... but I'd better not go any further.
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Post by sleepy on Feb 6, 2006 1:14:26 GMT
In the UK, the use of "Master" as a title for boys and young men is now a bit old fashioned, it's hardly used nowadays and then only for very formal purposes, I don't know about other English speaking countries. There's a joke about Mr and Mrs Bates who had a son... but I'd better not go any further. I've only heard it used in Brit movies, in posh public schools settings. ;D
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Post by sleepy on Feb 6, 2006 1:43:31 GMT
How about calling Zhou Wang 'Master'? Well, she's officially a 'modest' assistant professor, BUT have contributed much and 'mastered' a ton. Kind of feel her 'assistant' title is understated. Why is it so hard for guzheng educators to earn 'professorship' in China? Zhou Wang's title in Chinese is "Fu Jiao Shou". While Li Meng is the Principal Professor in Guzheng at their school, Zhou is pretty much the second in command--in a fashion of speaking. So I would think, the English equivalent is "Associate Professor" but not "Assistant". And then, I agree with you on the university degree issue. Let's not just generalize but focus on degrees earned at conservatories, especially those in China, and particulary the better-known ones (eg: Central, China, Shanghai). Before the days when Chinese instruments playing wasn't as popular and tuition was free (let's say 10-20 yrs ago), the schools I've just mentioned could only afford to admit one student per instrument per year! In those days, even second bests weren't good enough to get in, let alone earning a degree. I was told, if the teachers couldn't find anyone good enough in a particular year, they would rather not accept anyone. Today those schools might have loosened the admission requirements a bit but still retain certain standards. And then the rigorous training conservatory students go through, is just beyond the imagination of those of us who only play our instruments at leisure.
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Post by yudingbon on Feb 7, 2006 0:24:12 GMT
I have always been told that the difference between the "Master" and a "Lao Shi" is the field in which their study. Master is usually used for one that is more associated physical activities while Lao Shi is used for one who is meant to educate the mind. In being called Lao Shi and Master, they must have the proper experience in the field of study.
Music is a very interesting field for one can argue that music educates the mind while others say it is more of the technique of the fingers. Furthermore, one could argue that one is the Master of a particular piece of music and not necessarily the instrument.
Another point to ponder: Lao Shi is someone who can teach, but does a Master necessarily need to know how to teach, or is it just enough that they can do something very well. Furthermore, if a Lao Shi is very good in teaching, can s/he be considered a Master of teaching that particular area of study?
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Feb 7, 2006 1:24:42 GMT
Haiz......
The term"Master" in arts is simply a formal respect you would give to anyone who has contributed to the scene of arts. It is abitrary.
Laoshi is simply "teacher". Nothing more. However, when someone teaches, he needs to teach not only performance, but culture, traditional spirit to ensure it passes on, and even values of life like integrity and righteousness. Thats the weight of the word
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Post by sleepy on Feb 7, 2006 3:19:35 GMT
"Master" and "Teacher" are not mutually inclusive, so goes the logic. In practise though, many masters—again let's not dwell further in generalization, here I refer to the acclaimed masters, particularly in classical music—have also taught. And speaking of teachers, there are teachers and there are educators...
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