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Post by YouLanFengChune on Nov 24, 2006 3:24:50 GMT
This is madness. The price of Small Leaved Violet Sandalwood, the priciest type from Andaman has been CRAZY!
It went up a total of 280%.
Even the erhu we see now on Cadenza is BROAD LEAVED version, cheaper. Actually, very few sandalwood erhu sellers sell small leaved versions nowadays. I declared the species specifically to esplained the price decrease as we have switched species, the sound is as nice, but lack a bit of sweetness.
Dennis SOuthwood noticed, my new gaohu and zhonghu page, and i'm just getting the papers done.
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Post by dsouthwood on Nov 24, 2006 15:28:25 GMT
Thank you. I can't wait!
Dennis
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Post by damien on Jul 6, 2007 23:14:04 GMT
Hi, Wasn't to sure which thread to ask my question without creating another thread so I will just use this one. I am ready to buy myself a better Erhu and found one made from Small Leave redwood where you can find many on ebay at the moment. It is supposed to be professional but not too sure. Can anyone tell me if they have this Erhu or if the wood is any good? I think it is better than the one I have at the moment but maybe I should get myself a sandalwood Erhu. Here is one link to the Erhu I mean cgi.ebay.co.uk/Chinese-Small-Leave-redwood-Erhu_W0QQitemZ250139041738QQihZ015QQcategoryZ308QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemThanks for the help in advance. |
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Post by jetz320 on Jul 6, 2007 23:44:11 GMT
Look for dark snake skins. I think the darker the better sound. It looks ok. Don't trust it completely cuz its so cheap though.
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Post by davidmdahl on Jul 7, 2007 2:37:36 GMT
There is a lot that goes into the quality of an erhu besides the wood. I would definitely not assume that an erhu is good just because of the kind of wood or the color of the snake skin. While there are some good deals on Ebay, and reputable dealers sell via Ebay, I suggest contacting a dealer directly and ask your questions. When you are confident of the answers you can place your order, rather than feeling pressured into bidding.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by jetz320 on Jul 7, 2007 3:42:23 GMT
Try to get a soundclip.
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Post by damien on Jul 7, 2007 12:53:48 GMT
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Post by dsouthwood on Jul 7, 2007 14:16:20 GMT
For $90, maybe it would be worth it just for the bow and case. If the erhu is ok, that would be a bonus.
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Post by Charlie Huang on Jul 7, 2007 15:50:41 GMT
Dodgy indeed. Esp. the bit about the museum and the serial number (big no no!).
The qins they have look legit and cheap as chips (£140 inc. shipping). I might actually get one to see if it is any good. I imagine it would be at least easier to play than my current liuzhi qinmo...
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Post by jetz320 on Jul 7, 2007 15:56:43 GMT
the erhu looks ok though.
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Post by damien on Jul 7, 2007 18:55:51 GMT
I think for the bow and the case and Erhu for bonus is worth it, but then I have all of that. Going to save my pocket money and get a master piece  |
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Post by shoppingchinanow on Jul 11, 2007 3:33:45 GMT
Why ebony sandalwood erhu? Just because it cost more?
There are so many people who tell me that they prefer an erhu made of sandalwood, but always would I recommend them those made of aged redwood instead.
It is ture that the price for so-called small leaf ebony sandalwood soars these days, and I think the momentum would keep at least in the forseeable future.
Ebony can be a perfect choice for Pipa making, but I do like those erhu made of aged redwood.
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Post by davidmdahl on Jul 11, 2007 4:11:37 GMT
People tend to love beautiful woods and desire them even more when they are rare and expensive. Perhaps a maker will take special care to make an excellent erhu when using the particularly expensive wood. Of course, it is difficult to know when that erhu is made of low-quality small-leaf sandalwood.
My teacher has a wonderful erhu made of (old?) rosewood by Man Rui Xing that in some respects is better than my ebony sandalwood erhu. When I find my dream erhu someday, I would not be surprised if it is made of rosewood. The bottom line though will be its qualities as a fine instrument, rather than the wood. I will be especially pleased if it has a cloud-head. For some reason that appeals to me.
According to a friend of my teacher, rosewood is ideal for erhu, while sandalwood is ideal for the gaohu and zhonghu. What do you think?
Best wishes,
David
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Post by song on Jul 11, 2007 6:17:57 GMT
I still find that sandalwood erhus are the best. It gives a rich full bodied tone that is not found in other kinds of wood.
But of course not every piece of sandalwood erhu is able to produce that kind of tone. There are still other variables affecting the erhu like the maker, the snake skin etc. To the uninitiated, it is not easy to identify if the wood is indeed sandalwood. I have my doubts sometimes. So I tend to keep away from dodgy makers.
I haven't come across a lot of sandalwood zhonghus though. Might be an overkill. Aged rosewood is good enough I think.
Sung Wah
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Post by shoppingchinanow on Jul 13, 2007 9:08:49 GMT
First we need to what roles the soundbox play, as to erhu, it is used to support the snakeskin and to make resonance, which requires the wood used to make the box should be hard and crisp, I am not sure if "crisp" is correct when describing it, and if taking the two conditions into account, aged redwood is a good choice.
Ebony sandalwood was only developed in the erhu making not so long ago, I don't know the reason, in the early days, it is used for the furniture-making instead.
The erhu made of ebony is brighter than those of aged redwood, I mean when it comes to sound difference, it is something similar to that of violin , but the sound of aged redwood erhu is more far-reaching.
It is difficult for me to describe the difference in English precisely, and people's favor are different.
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Post by maaltan on Jul 14, 2007 0:25:43 GMT
Dodgy indeed. Esp. the bit about the museum and the serial number (big no no!). The qins they have look legit and cheap as chips (£140 inc. shipping). I might actually get one to see if it is any good. I imagine it would be at least easier to play than my current liuzhi qinmo... oh.. wow. that is the cheapest price I've seen on them period in the US. Please let me know if you do get one and they are at make a semi attractive sound. I have been looking for a qin that at the bare minimum looks good for less than my mortgage payment.  I have recently become very busy so i don't even have time for the erhu. It would be nice to just goof around on every once in a while. |
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Post by Charlie Huang on Jul 15, 2007 9:46:38 GMT
Dodgy indeed. Esp. the bit about the museum and the serial number (big no no!). The qins they have look legit and cheap as chips (£140 inc. shipping). I might actually get one to see if it is any good. I imagine it would be at least easier to play than my current liuzhi qinmo... oh.. wow. that is the cheapest price I've seen on them period in the US. Please let me know if you do get one and they are at make a semi attractive sound. I have been looking for a qin that at the bare minimum looks good for less than my mortgage payment. I have recently become very busy so i don't even have time for the erhu. It would be nice to just goof around on every once in a while. Well, I think having two qins at hand will spice things up for me. If I get bored or stuck on one, I can always move onto the other for a bit of freshness. IMO, one qin is not enough. My current one is more difficult to play than most qins I've touch (sorta confirmed by ZCW really with his qin surgery of two years back). i just need something much easier on the hands which I believe will improve my playing. I don't care if it's factory made or not. I just want a cheap new decent playable qin! |
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I have recently become very busy so i don't even have time for the erhu. It would be nice to just goof around on every once in a while.