Nikki
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Post by Nikki on Apr 21, 2019 8:33:49 GMT
I have a question about the qianjin. How do I know if it needs replacing? Now i'm quite hesitant to do this, if it fails i can't play erhu anymore. I have been able to find enough videos on how to tie the qianjin. But I'm still very reluctant to replace it. Unfortunately I have not yet been able to find a teacher to help me with this and to tell me how to do this. (Finding a teacher in the Netherlands is not easy.) Now I came across this on the internet: does anyone happen to have experience with this?
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Nikki
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Post by Nikki on Apr 22, 2019 6:24:06 GMT
This morning I decided to practice the Qianjin. So now I practice with a stick with 2 nails as an erhu neck and a wire as a string. The video from EMTV about making the qianjin is very helpful. I am slowly gaining confidence that I can also learn this. But it remains exciting because I don't have anyone around who can help me if things go wrong.
In the video from EMTV they say that you have to tune your erhu up a bit because the qianjin thread is still stretching a bit. How much higher should this be? And isn't this bad for the strings? And if the qianjin is going to stretch a little, how much tighter do you need to attach the qianjin? Or is this stretching negligible?
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Nikki
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Post by Nikki on Apr 22, 2019 7:02:58 GMT
Is there still a lot of quality difference between the qianjin thread? I come across white and brown thread, but the qianjin seems to be yellow on my erhu ?? What kind of qianjin thread do you use? And why? And how many turns do you use, according to which formula?
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Nikki
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Post by Nikki on Apr 23, 2019 7:01:09 GMT
Yesterday I practiced a lot of knotting the quanjin and this morning I replaced the qianjin of my erhu I thought it was exciting but it went very well. To be sure, I pushed the old qianjin down a bit and tied the new qianjin above it. If it didn't work out, I could always push the old one back in its place. But I succeeded and I now have a new qianjin. I hope he will keep it and not suddenly come loose. I am very happy!!!
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Post by davidmdahl on Apr 23, 2019 19:10:10 GMT
Good for you, Nikki! As you found, tying a qianjin is not very difficult. There are some excellent videos on Youtube that show just how to do it.
Best wishes,
David
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qianjin
Apr 24, 2019 4:41:19 GMT
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Post by d̗̰̗͆͘ǎ͔̱͈̰̬̫ͨ̌ͮͥ͗ͭ̕vid on Apr 24, 2019 4:41:19 GMT
If you look closely at some professional huqin players, they have some whacked up qianjins... In fact everywhere i go where there are messed up qianjins. It’s not even that difficult. I appreciate your hard work and effort
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Nikki
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Post by Nikki on Apr 24, 2019 10:11:10 GMT
Thanks!
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Post by juliek on Apr 29, 2019 8:40:42 GMT
Glad you managed to get it sorted. I keep long ends on mine knotted out of the way just in case I need to retie it and have no string to hand I have read somewhere that putting nail varnish on the qianjin can improve sound but I couldn't work out when or where to put the nail varnish. Julie
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Nikki
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Post by Nikki on May 4, 2019 7:55:27 GMT
I think i wood never use varnish on my qianjin. If it sticks to the wood, you have a big problem!
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qianjin
May 8, 2019 12:10:12 GMT
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Post by juliek on May 8, 2019 12:10:12 GMT
I think they must paint it on just round the strings. I couldn’t find out anymore so haven’t dared to try it yet.
Julie
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qianjin
May 8, 2019 16:05:46 GMT
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Post by d̗̰̗͆͘ǎ͔̱͈̰̬̫ͨ̌ͮͥ͗ͭ̕vid on May 8, 2019 16:05:46 GMT
I think they must paint it on just round the strings. I couldn’t find out anymore so haven’t dared to try it yet. Julie Usually qianjin string is already coated with wax.
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Post by davidmdahl on May 8, 2019 18:47:32 GMT
My qianjin string does not appear coated with anything. It is somewhat stiff as it comes already.
Best wishes,
David
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May 8, 2019 19:36:42 GMT
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Post by d̗̰̗͆͘ǎ͔̱͈̰̬̫ͨ̌ͮͥ͗ͭ̕vid on May 8, 2019 19:36:42 GMT
My qianjin string does not appear coated with anything. It is somewhat stiff as it comes already. Best wishes, David I guess the vendor i bought the roll from wasn’t reliable lol. The wax itself is a bit sticky. It was 3¥ for one roll on taobao that seemingly lasts for a hundred ties.
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Post by ed on Jul 20, 2019 0:05:29 GMT
Hi Nikki
The plastic looking QianJin you show in your picture looks very smart! It seems to be similar in approach to the metal one I use. The metal type is actually quite common, but I think normally confined to cheaper instruments.
I have had a lot of problems with the metal QianJin tho, and I think I am going to switch back to a string one. I have had to resort to a thin strip of rubber wrapped around the A string, otherwise the two strings rattle against each other and cause squeaking noises.
Ed H
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