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Post by eccjo on Jan 17, 2018 10:25:33 GMT
Hello, I have decided to get into chinese music and buy a dizi. I have taught myself how to play some other instruments (guitar, piano etc), but I have no experience with wind instruments or music theory. That said, when I take up a new instrument I tend to stick with it in the long run, so I'd like a dizi that is of acceptable quality that I won't have to change once I get better with it (hopefully). Currently I have been looking into these two: www.redmusicshop.com/Dizi/Concert%20grade%20Bamboo%20Flute%20Dizi%20by%20Dong%20Xuehuawww.dhgate.com/store/product/dxh0-traditional-handmade-flute-professional/390442161.htmlMy budget is ~ 100 usd, but I am definitely willing to go a little over for a quality piece. Do you approve of any of these? Can you give me a link to something better? I see some of you tend to advise people to buy from eason, but almost all of the D key dizi are out of stock, which brings me to another question: I've read that most of traditional chinese music is meant to be played by D and G key dizi. Considering I am planning on playing by myself, how much of a limiting factor is that? Can I play any tune on any dizi without accompaniment, just as long as I pretend I'm playing on the correct key dizi? Lastly, I live in Greece and finding a seller that ships here has been somewhat of a hassle, so if you know of sites that deliver to most of Europe please let me know. Thanks in advance |
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Post by Flolei on Jan 17, 2018 21:04:07 GMT
Hello,
if there's no D, then get C.
Redmusicshop is a reliable shop on line.
Best regards,
Flolei
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Post by eccjo on Jan 17, 2018 21:33:19 GMT
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Post by davidmdahl on Jan 17, 2018 22:54:52 GMT
Welcome to the forum, eccjo. If you are not going to play with other instruments, the key of the dizi does not matter much. The D and C keys are probably the best choices for a first dizi considering hand comfort and embouchure requirements. A lower key may require an uncomfortable finger stretch, and a higher key is more challenging for the embouchure (lips).
If you use Chinese numeric notation (jianpu) for playing tunes, you can pretty much play whatever dizi you have for any tune. You can play a D tune, or a G tune, on a C dizi, and it will sound fine, just lower.
The Eason Music stock does appear to be depleted at the moment. You could email them to see when they expect to be restocked. I have some of the more expensive Dong Xue Hua dizi models, and like them a lot. Eason sells Xie Bing at the price point you are shopping instead of lower cost Dong Xue Hua. I have not played the DXH or XB in your price range, but they are reasonable choices.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by eccjo on Jan 17, 2018 23:14:52 GMT
Thank you very much for the great answer David! I realize that as a starter on top of having relatively small hands for a guy a lower key like a bass G would be difficult.
I am planning on learning jianpu, since I can't read scores and sometimes learning by ear can only get you so far.
I will take your advice and email Eason to make a more educated decision, but I am glad the dizi I have found are reasonable.
Regards,
John
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Post by eccjo on Jan 18, 2018 17:35:18 GMT
I sent an email to Eason and they immediately restocked the requested items (props). I decided on ordering this dizi: www.easonmusicstore.com/products/Beautifully-Crafted-Concert-Grade-D-key-Dizi-by-XB/142which works out well considering my price range. I decided not to go for anything more expensive so as no to over do it before I am proficient with the instrument. It will arrive in 1-2 weeks and I'm very excited to say the least! Thank you for the help! |
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Post by davidmdahl on Jan 19, 2018 7:17:24 GMT
Congratulations on your purchase, eccjo. I hope you have a lot of fun with your dizi.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by Flolei on Jan 19, 2018 8:19:51 GMT
This one is very good, I'm sure that you will enjoy it!
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Post by eccjo on Apr 27, 2018 15:14:28 GMT
Hello again, because of a few complications my dizi arrived a few days ago and since then I've been having a blast. However, something happened today that troubles me. I decided to use scotch tape instead of the encased membrane, because I didn't want to waste it. I researched whether scotch tape should be used as dimo and no one seemed to state that it shouldn't. However when I decided to change the piece of scotch tape today, after about 5 days of use I noticed some slight discoloration, as if though the tape took off some pieces of the bamboo. The damage is minimal and I don't really mind it, but I would like to know if I should avoid using scotch tape from now on and whether there are any other alternatives to the membrane that are more easily available. Here is a picture of the problem: www.4shared.com/photo/CcrzZE0See/IMG_20180427_180027.html |
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Post by davidmdahl on Apr 27, 2018 16:12:05 GMT
Hello Eccjo,
Congratulations on your dizi. I can't tell much from the photo, but will check again latter this evening when I can download the full-resolution image. I have never had trouble using cellophane tape, but I use "Magic Tape" that does not have a lot of sticky to it. There are some cello tapes that are very sticky. If you are pulling bits of finish off of your dizi, I would wonder about the quality of the finish.
You should have enough dimo membrane that you don't have to worry about running out. As a beginner, you will go through dimo membrane as you learn how to install and adjust it. You need to develop confidence in this process so that braking a membrane is not a crisis. Dimo membrane is relatively inexpensive, so you can order several packages to have on hand.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by eccjo on Apr 27, 2018 16:35:53 GMT
Thank you, I hope nothing is wrong with the dizi, I will get some of that magic tape you're speaking of, and maybe I will start using some dimo membrane as well. So far learning the dizi has been very fun, but I still get dizzy after playing for 15-20 minutes, but I hear it gets better when you learn to control your breathing and blowing. I will upload a recording once I feel comfortable with my level.
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Post by fanfan8923 on May 10, 2018 0:37:02 GMT
Hello everyone.. I also decided to buy a dizi as a beginner. After i searching online, i found that there are 2 types of dizi joint as picture below. imgur.com/cb3rKMsmay i know the pros and cons between this 2 joint from your experience? thank you very much..  |
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Post by edcat7 on May 10, 2018 22:12:58 GMT
Hello everyone.. I also decided to buy a dizi as a beginner. After i searching online, i found that there are 2 types of dizi joint as picture below. imgur.com/cb3rKMsmay i know the pros and cons between this 2 joint from your experience? thank you very much.. Hi and welcome, I think I have both, there isn't much difference between the two. For the second type, if I haven't played it in a long while and the dizi is connected, it can be harder to remove. Also should you drop the open end and buckle the join, it is difficult to fix on. The metal join should be lubricated, I use hand cream. Ed |
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Post by fanfan8923 on May 12, 2018 12:18:21 GMT
Hello everyone.. I also decided to buy a dizi as a beginner. After i searching online, i found that there are 2 types of dizi joint as picture below. imgur.com/cb3rKMsmay i know the pros and cons between this 2 joint from your experience? thank you very much.. Hi and welcome, I think I have both, there isn't much difference between the two. For the second type, if I haven't played it in a long while and the dizi is connected, it can be harder to remove. Also should you drop the open end and buckle the join, it is difficult to fix on. The metal join should be lubricated, I use hand cream. Ed Hi edcat7 and thanks for the respond, Yesterday i found that my friend have C key Dizi with the second type of joint and i already borrow from him. He haven't played his dizi for a long time and yes, the joint is harder to remove and a little bit sticky and dirty inside.. i already cleaned it yesterday.. but i haven't applied any hand cream because i'm not really sure what kind of hand cream should i use.. do you have any suggestion? Also, my friends dizi written 應明章 (Ying Ming Zhang). I think it is the name of this dizi maker. Is it a good one? And i found that alot of dizi made by Xie Bing and Dong Xue Hua.. Do you have any suggestion about which brand is suitable for beginner? Thank you very much Regards - Fan |
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Post by davidmdahl on May 12, 2018 20:26:59 GMT
I prefer to simply keep the dizi joints clean. Any kind of goop on the joints can collect dust and grime, and eventually turn into glue.
I have several dizi flutes by Dong Xue Hua and they are quite good. I understand that Xie Bing has a good reputation as well. I tend to order the best models available of good makers, such as DXH. It is worthwhile with most instruments to get the best you can afford, and the dizi is no exception.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by edcat7 on May 15, 2018 9:56:33 GMT
Hi and welcome, I think I have both, there isn't much difference between the two. For the second type, if I haven't played it in a long while and the dizi is connected, it can be harder to remove. Also should you drop the open end and buckle the join, it is difficult to fix on. The metal join should be lubricated, I use hand cream. Ed Hi edcat7 and thanks for the respond, Yesterday i found that my friend have C key Dizi with the second type of joint and i already borrow from him. He haven't played his dizi for a long time and yes, the joint is harder to remove and a little bit sticky and dirty inside.. i already cleaned it yesterday.. but i haven't applied any hand cream because i'm not really sure what kind of hand cream should i use.. do you have any suggestion? Also, my friends dizi written 應明章 (Ying Ming Zhang). I think it is the name of this dizi maker. Is it a good one? And i found that alot of dizi made by Xie Bing and Dong Xue Hua.. Do you have any suggestion about which brand is suitable for beginner? Thank you very much Regards - Fan I use any hand cream to lubricate the joins. As to which dizi is best for a beginner depends on how seriously you take it and whether you have tuition or not. I had bought the cheapest dizi I could find on eBay, at the time it was less than £GBP 10 inc. postage. The tone was a bit flat but what I loved about it was that it was so easy to play across all three octaves. |
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Post by fanfan8923 on May 17, 2018 7:03:17 GMT
Thank you davidmdahl and edcat7 for the respond and suggestion I already contact Eason Music Store Singapore about DXH D Key Dizi.. They are out of stock right now and Eason will restock it immediately.. I hope the DXH D Key Dizi is ready stock before I travel to Singapore next month..  Regards, - Fan |
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