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Post by yopparai on Aug 2, 2006 17:12:02 GMT
Lets start by pointing out that I know absolutely nothing about pipa, at least I didn't until yesterday evening. Yesterday I hit random play on my media player and the first thing that came out was "Folk Dance of the Li" It really grabbed me. The sound instantly reminded me of the sound of my fretless banjo. And the instant that thought hit, I knew I was doomed to attempt it.
David (davidmdahl) very graciously corrected my misconception as to what the instrument was and so that led me here. I spent the evening scouring the net for information and watched a few videos of people playing the pipa. I can't say it was encouraging. I watched the fingers on the right hand as their motion became a blur. What has my Muse done to me?
To the point, could someone describe for me the most elementary way to execute that rapid repeated striking of the same string? I think the term is lun? If there is a variant that involves plucking the strings in a motion more familiar to a Western banjo and guitar player, that might be more accessible for me than the back of the nails brush I watched in the clips with mouth agape and disbelief.
Also, what is the distance between the strings at the bridge on a pipa and the height of the strings above the body of the instrument? It looked a bit wider than my banjo, which makes sense with all those fingers flying around. I may have to make me a bridge before attempting to learn the techniques.
I think all those banjo people that talk about the banjo being a difficult instrument should be forced to learn pipa.
Any information y'all can provide will be most appreciated.
Yopp
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Post by davidmdahl on Aug 2, 2006 19:10:29 GMT
For another dose of humility, check out the guitarist Xuefei Yang: www.xuefeiyang.com/In particular, be sure to listen to the sound clip of the Yi Dance in the CDs & Samples section. Best wishes, David
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Post by yopparai on Aug 2, 2006 21:10:09 GMT
Wow. Tell me again, how many hands does she have?
I am guessing I won't have my version of "Folk Dance of the Li" mastered anytime soon. I am not sure I will even be able to start on it for a while. Learning to do that 'thing' may take me well into retirement.
On the bright side, She demonstrates that it can be done. I will have to hold on to that and press on.
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czy
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Post by czy on Aug 16, 2008 8:48:40 GMT
the bridges, frets on a pipa do not exactly a so-called standardized distance apart.it is calibrated by the maker himself and hence,every pipa's frets/bridges are different distances apart. and that is also why every pipa sounds different in terms of timbre and sound texture.
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Post by calden on Aug 16, 2008 12:44:10 GMT
yopparai:
I'm visiting from the erhu side of life.
I play banjo, melodic clawhammer style, and do Irish music with it. I lived in China about 20 years ago and studied pipa there. Don't be put off by the technique involved in learning pipa. Just get down and woodshed and it will sort itself out in a month or so.
It feels counterintuitive to pluck with the tops of your fingernails, and the lunzi takes getting used to, but they will smooth out over time. You'll also feel a lot more strength after some practice.
Do you have a book? Video of basic techniques?
Carlos
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Post by frogprince on Aug 19, 2008 5:42:44 GMT
I just started learning pipa. I can say its those different fingerings that attracted me to want to learn more about pipa. Don't be discouraged... just imagine how wonderful an instrument it is. Let alone 'tan' and 'tiao' on a same string and same note can have 2 different sounds already... not to mention there are 30 to 40 over fingerings methods or techniques...
Doh.. i am still a newbie. Just sharing with you from a newbie point of view.
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czy
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Post by czy on Aug 20, 2008 15:23:36 GMT
Huh?2 different sounds? Can elaborate?Pls. Do you mean the difference in volume? Because I have only heard my teacher talk about that. Yes yes pipa so many techniques, sometimes i get confused about it too.(:
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