dizi and jianpu for a beginner

[cold]

Dear all,

I'm new to this forum and I'm new to music.
Recently I have decided to learn an instrument and I have decided to buy a C key Dizi (6 holes). 
After learning through online sources (mainly youtube) I have managed to make quite impressive progress (from a point of view of someone who has never played an instrument).
I have also used this www.goamcan.com/lessons/Dizi-01.html website to learn, and now I'm looking for simple dizi songs.

I have found 2 recommendations on this forum (http://starvoid.proboards.com/thread/1852) and I have attempted to play them accordingly to the fingering chart on "goacan "website. But let me get down to the issue. I have a problem with playing songs even though I use correct fingering. I assumed that the problem is due to my lack of knowledge on reading jianpu, so I tried to read online sources. However, I do not know hot to read any notes (western or not) and people mostly are comparing western notes to jianpu. So Wikipedia and others aren't much of help, thus I'm writing to you lovely people. Would you be so kind and explain how to properly read jianpu?

I understand the part when the dot is on the top or bottom (upper,lower octave -even though I don't know how to blow to get upper octave - simple notes don't require such knowledge) - but that would be it, really. 

Regards,

Jan

[cold]

Hello again,

I wonder if someone could help me with this.

www.easyjianpu.com/category/kids/ - I found this website to be very helpful, and I attempted to practice on Holy Night (Christmas time! .
However the key 3 on my dizi sounds little bit off - not too sure if it's me, flute or the chart.

in 5 6 5 3 (and throughout the whole song) - it feels that key 3 is way too high to make song fluent and nice, while the rest of the keyes sound right.
I'm using this fingering chart for my C key dizi - www.goamcan.com/lessons/Dizi-01.html
Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Many thanks.

[edcat7]

Hi Jan and welcome,

Just got back from work and am truly knackered; but will try the above score. In the meantime can you post a sound clip?

Best wishes,

Ed

[cold]

Hi,

Thanks for your reply.

Here is the link vocaroo.com/i/s0pM2pYHY5UC - I hope my poor attempt to play won't kill your sensitive ears

Regards,

J.

[edcat7]

Ok, had a quick look: Your playing of the notes were correct. It has to be played in the higher octave. All notes to be played with one dot above, so some of the notes have to be played with two dots. You might have problems with 4..

Considering you're teaching yourself, you have done really well. It's a good idea to play simple (Western) tunes you are familiar with then you begin to understand quavers and semi quavers.

Ed

[edcat7]

I had another look at it. I wish my computer skills was better than poor.

I studied the first part. All the notes are played on the second octave except all the 3's which are played on the first octave. However line three note 3 is played on the second octave.

If you you figure that out the second part should be ok too.

Hope that helps,

Ed

[cold]

Hi Ed,

Thank you so much for your time and guidance.

To be honest I'm not entirely sure on which octave I'm playing - google search told me that the lower octave is the easier one to learn so I assumed that is the one I'm using.

I notice that key 3 is the one that makes most of the songs out of tune and I wonder why. I thinking of finding myself a dizi tutor in London - few lessons should be helpful. I thought I can learn on my own but it seems that it is more complicated that I previously thought .

Thanks again!

J.

EDIT: especially going from 5 to 3 sounds very ODD.

[davidmdahl]

Here is a setting of Silent Night in jianpu that I wrote up. I like to think of the note '1' as covering the first three left hand finger holes, so that is the orientation of the arrangement. Let me know if you have questions.

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[edcat7]

Dec 18, 2016 19:53:00 GMT cold said:

Hi Ed,

Thank you so much for your time and guidance.

To be honest I'm not entirely sure on which octave I'm playing - google search told me that the lower octave is the easier one to learn so I assumed that is the one I'm using.

I notice that key 3 is the one that makes most of the songs out of tune and I wonder why. I thinking of finding myself a dizi tutor in London - few lessons should be helpful. I thought I can learn on my own but it seems that it is more complicated that I previously thought .

Thanks again!

J.

EDIT: especially going from 5 to 3 sounds very ODD.

You might find David's arrangement to be easier though I haven't tried it myself...yet. As I said with your arrangement it can't be played on only the first octave. To play the second octave you need to angle the flow of air roughly 45 degrees upwards.

Where abouts in London are you?

Ed

[cold]

Thank you so much David - I will play tomorrow and see if the tune feels any easier to play.

Ed, I'm around Stratford area, east London.
I will try to practice the octaves little bit more (shame it's so late - I soo want to play! Someone should create a flute from which the sound goes into the headphones only)

Thanks again.

Jan

[edcat7]

I live in Barnet and my music teacher isn't too far from you in Erith. His rate is very reasonable.

[cold]

Dec 19, 2016 23:57:05 GMT edcat7 said:

I live in Barnet and my music teacher isn't too far from you in Erith. His rate is very reasonable.

Oh nice one!
Would you be so kind and pm me his details and hourly price, please? Many thanks