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Xu Yan
May 23, 2007 2:24:40 GMT
Post by guzhenglover on May 23, 2007 2:24:40 GMT
Why is it that when I attempt to do a xu yan on the 7th string (to be precise, on the half-way mark between the 6th and the 7th hui's of the 7th string) an annoying buzzing sound appears? Does that happen to you guys? If so, what do you do to try and eliminate that sound? My teacher tried to demonstrate it to me but after the last lesson I am still unclear as to how to get rid of this noise and I don't know when our next lesson will be yet. I think she showed me that I can use the fourth finger of the LH to try and minimise the vibrations of the 7th string but touching, but not pressing down, the 7th string gently with the fourth finger as I try to do xu yan with the LH thumb. Any idea, anyone?
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Xu Yan
May 23, 2007 3:56:57 GMT
Post by Si on May 23, 2007 3:56:57 GMT
i think its normal for a buzzing sound, but dont treat my comment as gospel!
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Xu Yan
May 30, 2007 8:15:14 GMT
Post by guzhenglover on May 30, 2007 8:15:14 GMT
Well what do people think about playing a non-buzzing xu yan? e.g. in the fourth section of feng lei yin.
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Xu Yan
May 30, 2007 14:20:52 GMT
Post by charliecharlieecho on May 30, 2007 14:20:52 GMT
Well what do people think about playing a non-buzzing xu yan? e.g. in the fourth section of feng lei yin. Which version of feng lei yin do you mean? The one starting on p 87 of Guqin Quji and the one starting just after it on p 90 (both from the MeianQinpu) have a xu yan on the 7th string at huiwei 6.4. That doesn't buzz on my Zeng Chengwei, but xu yan at the 7th hui buzzes on all the strings.
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Xu Yan
May 30, 2007 22:36:28 GMT
Post by Charlie Huang on May 30, 2007 22:36:28 GMT
It depends on what you mean by 'buzzing'. Is it natural buzzing or is it buzzing caused by the strings being too low.
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Xu Yan
Jun 1, 2007 2:22:41 GMT
Post by guzhenglover on Jun 1, 2007 2:22:41 GMT
Well what do people think about playing a non-buzzing xu yan? e.g. in the fourth section of feng lei yin. Which version of feng lei yin do you mean? The one starting on p 87 of Guqin Quji and the one starting just after it on p 90 (both from the MeianQinpu) have a xu yan on the 7th string at huiwei 6.4. That doesn't buzz on my Zeng Chengwei, but xu yan at the 7th hui buzzes on all the strings. Well my version comes from Mei An Qinpu. Don't know about the page number but the xu yan I mean is on the 7th string at huiwei 6.5 , in section 4. That one buzzes. Just so as to make it clearer the bit I mean, there is a cuo both before and after the xu yan. THe cuo before this utilizes open stringed 2nd and 7th strings, and the cuo after it utilizes an on the 7th string, huiwei 6.5 and the open 3rd string. If yours is the original Meian Qinpu, then I think mine may not be, as I can't seem to find another xu yan in the same score! Charlie - the buzzing sound to me sounds a bit like a tiny car horn honking...believe it or not! Don't think there's a buzz elsewhere when I do the xu yan.
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Xu Yan
Jun 1, 2007 11:27:42 GMT
Post by Charlie Huang on Jun 1, 2007 11:27:42 GMT
Hmmm, car horn? Oh, I think that mines sound like that as well...
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Xu Yan
Jun 3, 2007 14:11:07 GMT
Post by charliecharlieecho on Jun 3, 2007 14:11:07 GMT
Which version of feng lei yin do you mean? The one starting on p 87 of Guqin Quji and the one starting just after it on p 90 (both from the MeianQinpu) have a xu yan on the 7th string at huiwei 6.4. That doesn't buzz on my Zeng Chengwei, but xu yan at the 7th hui buzzes on all the strings. Don't know about the page number but the xu yan I mean is on the 7th string at huiwei 6.5 , in section 4. That one buzzes. That looks like a problem with (a) your qin or (b) the way you execute the xu yan or (c) the way I understand 'buzzing'. (c) is the most likely. The 'car horn' note you hear is because the string on both sides of your thumb vibrate, but the side nearer the yueshan has a higher pitch than the side nearer the jiaowei. A buzz is when the string vibrates against the top board and causes a kazoo-like sound (without the voicing).
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Xu Yan
Jun 4, 2007 7:13:28 GMT
Post by guzhenglover on Jun 4, 2007 7:13:28 GMT
Well what I mean is that I can hear the buzz with the voicing. Maybe another possibiility is that the string isn't tight enough, or that it's vibrating against something else?
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