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Post by juanmi on Nov 20, 2013 13:54:56 GMT
Hi there! This is my first post in this forum, just tp say hello and introduce myself ;-] My name is JuanMi. I come fron Spain and I am 47 years old. I am learning traverse flute (a -western concert flute-as "eastern" people better knows it) but as I was in china several years ago and bought a "cheap" dizi and xiao flutes among chinese music cd's, now I'm cought by the chinese dizi and erhu instruments... . My traverse flute can wait I recently bought a rosewood C key dizi in ebay and I am very happy with it. Paid about 80$ for it. I am so happy with it (playing it) that i'm looking further flutes and instruments all being chinese. I'm considering buying a sandalwood D key dizi as the end holes aren t so apart as the C key one (although I don t have small hands). Which one would you recommend to me?. Price should not be a problem, but common sense for pricing I like low tones and slow themes therefore a Qudi flute would be my preference... As far as I know, bamboo flutes would have a better sound.. but I think thicker (more density! woods will last longer... despite they are nicer to me... Every comment, advicenor idea will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance, JuanMi Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by manunart on Nov 25, 2013 12:09:06 GMT
Dear, juanmi
I just got low Bb Dong Xue Hua Dizi and it's really good. I love the sound of Xindi (Bass dizi) which suit for slow themes and still not hard to play with. (As many member recommended)
I am very new in Dizi.
Cheers...
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Post by juanmi on Nov 25, 2013 14:01:48 GMT
Hi Manunart,
Thank you for your kind comments.
I also am newbie with dizis, although i have some knowledge about concert flutes.
But about low dizis... I am concerned about the distance between the right hand holes... i normally see people using the pinky finger. I guess so you do.
I'm not used to that hand positio. For playing and therefore this will add a few complexities more... :-)
But I carefully take note about your comments about the making quality of your flute.
Thank you again,
JuanMi
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Post by Flolei on Nov 25, 2013 15:43:42 GMT
Hello Juanmi,
Actually low Bb usually has only 6 fingerholes. The distance between two last fingers of the right hand can be challenging (like quenacho and low whistle) but it's also a matter of practice. At the beginning I almost didn't reach the last hole, now it's very easy and I even play a 6 holes low A which is even more challenging. Of course, as I am 41, my hand hasn't grown...
For low G, 7 fingerholes (use of right pinkie) make playing easy. The only challenges at the beginning are the distance between fingers of the left hand and, of course, breathing technique.
About bamboo vs. wood, I noticed that for dizis the material is not so important (because the membrane modifies the tone color). It's not true that bamboo dizis are less loud, it really depends on other elements. The main argument for wood in you case - and in mine - is the dry weather in most European countries which makes care of a bamboo instrument a little more stressing.
D dizi is a good choice for a first or second instrument. Many pieces are written in D and you can easily play with other Chinese instruments if you have the opportunity to do it. Personally, in your case I would buy a good bamboo one (from Eason, for example) to have the opportunity to compare it with the wooden C, but if you really want to choose a wooden dizi, you can get one from Red music shop (reliable online shop). The whole line of wooden dizis seems to be very good (I have only one very good in E, but someone on this forum has one in C and seems to be very happy with it).
Best regards,
Flolei
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Post by manunart on Nov 25, 2013 18:49:54 GMT
Dear, juanmi
I forget to tell you that I also have a 45 USD D Key Dizi. This is my first Dizi and easier to play. No finger stretching problem at all.
For me, I don't find much harder from D to low Bb and able to stretch finger without any problem. If you like to play slow themes and play solo, C will also be your choice.
Flolei, Thank you for the wood Dizi information. You make me want to try wooden Dizi right now. Do you know about the different of wood? (e.g. rosewood, sandalwood, etc.)
Cheers...
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Post by edcat7 on Nov 25, 2013 22:42:55 GMT
I've not tried any of the dizis from Redmusicshop but have bought from him many times, my last purchase a rather goodish gaohu for the money. If Flo likes wooden dizis from him then they must be good.
I won't mention the vendor but I bought three rosewood dizis and even the best sounding one doesn't sound as good as a DXH bamboo one. So buyer beware. I also have a goodish yellow sandalwood C but I probably wouldn't buy wood again. However, because of the dry hot weather you have in the summer that may be a better option.
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Post by juanmi on Nov 26, 2013 8:12:25 GMT
Hi there!
Thank you very much to all your comments.
I understand that bamboo dizis should have a better sound than other woods. Although bamboo seem to have more possibilities to crack in our drier european weather.
I also understand that the quality of DXH bamboo dizis should beat other wood flutes manufacturers.
Space between holes seem to be also a question of practice, so now I'm encouraged as it is "just" a matter of time.
My next dizi will be a D bamboo one and then a low one will also come. Surely coming from DXH.
Thank you again for all the explanations you gave me.
Cheers,
JuanMi
Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by Flolei on Nov 26, 2013 10:37:03 GMT
Hello, Nice decision (please, read my other post about cracks and winter temperature in Europe). Yes, Ed, you have one wooden flute carried by RMS: the yellow sandalwood C dizi you bought from another seller is also sold by RDS. www.redmusicshop.com/Dizi/Pluggable%20yellow%20sandalwood%20%20wooden%20Dizi%20flute,Dizi%20Kit,OX%20Horns%20at%20both%20ends It's this one, isn't it? After you, I got one in E - from Taobao - which is very good. Not better than my bamboo E, but very good. Cheers, Flolei
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Post by edcat7 on Nov 26, 2013 22:17:07 GMT
Yes, that's the one. I've enough dizis to last me a lifetime and I have difficulty navigating around these taobao websites.
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Post by edcat7 on Dec 30, 2013 21:46:41 GMT
I'm going to have to change my mind about wooden dizis again:
My teacher has a budget purple bamboo high G. Though only ok sounding he loves it because it's thick for a high G. Then I brought my bitter bamboo G and he loves it too, though it quite thin.
Then today I saw a beautiful wooden G lying around and decided to give it a go: thicker than mine, very easy to play, finger holes spaced slightly further apart, beautiful sounding and incredibly resonate. It was a gift from a childhood friend and professional dizi player. And he gave it to me! (Actually he swapped it for mine)
The moral of the story is you'll find the perfect dizi, regardless of the material it's made from, if you have the luxury of choosing it yourself out of a pile of hundreds.
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Post by thebamboogrove on Dec 30, 2013 22:42:31 GMT
Agree! an average trip to meet my dizi maker results in me buying at least 20...
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