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Post by manunart on Oct 28, 2013 9:19:19 GMT
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Post by edcat7 on Oct 28, 2013 10:34:43 GMT
Hi manunart and welcome,
Thanks for uploading the tunes. I love the hulusi and can play well four or five tunes. I think it's a very modern composition, almost sounding to my ears Western. Do you know if the backing track is available?
Best wishes
Ed
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Post by manunart on Oct 28, 2013 18:01:06 GMT
Hi Ed and all, I had only one karaoke backing track Key A version, you can download it here. www.4shared.com/mp3/nWajT_e_/Endless_love_Karaoke_Key_A.htmlThank you for the warm welcome. I am very new on Dizi and this is the first wood wind instrument I use. Now i am using the 40 USD key D dizi and played about only 1 week. And able to play (but not clear) note 1 to 13. For the higher note of 14 and 15 is really hard to play. Next month my wife will go to SG. And I have plan to buy another concert grade key D Dizi from eason.com.sg I have some question... 1) I love to play slow tempo (sad/sweet) song. If the price doesn't matter which should i buy? - Exquisite Master Class High D key Dizi by Dong Xue Hua (USD 136.67) - Purple Bamboo Dizi by Jiang Guo Ji (USD 270) - Concert Grade D key 5 year bamboo dizi by Xie Bin (USD 111.67) - Master Class G Key Flute endorsed by Zhan Yong Ming (Ting Quan) (USD 199) The song that I like Example: Flowers In a Riot of Color www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce3BeSI8WrkThe snow is red www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-Bcgr526zgFate www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtnJfOJGBUw2) I found Jiang Guo Ji dizi which is very expensive (270 USD) than the other. How much better sound from other dizi? 3) The price of both www.easonmusicstore.com/ and www.eason.com.sg/ is not the same. What is the latest price? I found this website from google. I learn a lot from here. Thank you Ed, and all. |
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Post by davidmdahl on Oct 28, 2013 23:08:18 GMT
Manunart, I find the D and G dizi keys to be most useful. When I am playing by myself, I much prefer playing the D or C dizi. The G dizi is a high piccolo-range flute and the fingers are a bit cramped, and the lips need to be more focused. I think that it is better to wait to play the high G flute until you have played for a while on the mid-range D or C keys, and have developed the muscles in your lips (embouchure). It is likely that you will notice the difference between your $40 D dizi and either the Xie Bing or Dong Xue Hua. I don't think that it is necessary to order the higher-priced models. If the money is burning a hole in your pocket, it might be fun though to have the very best, but I have found that sometimes once you get to a certain quality, spending more money does not necessarily get you a better instrument for "you". I think that any of the makers/models you list are good and none would be a bad choice. The current website for Eason Music is www.easonmusicstore.com . The other site is old and you should not rely on the prices listed there. The old site is primarily useful for the resource pages, since they have not yet been moved to the new site. Best wishes, David |
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Post by manunart on Oct 29, 2013 10:36:18 GMT
Hi, David and all.
Thank you for your information.
I am consider either
Exquisite Master Class High D key Dizi by Dong Xue Hua (USD 136.67)
or
Concert Grade D key 5 year bamboo dizi by Xie Bin (USD 111.67)
1) Do you have any information or suggestion about the tone and controllable of both dizi?
2) And also how much the Dimo quality effect on the sound produced? Does the dimo have many grade? What brand should I buy?
Thank you.
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Post by edcat7 on Oct 29, 2013 11:29:30 GMT
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Post by Blue on Oct 29, 2013 15:27:22 GMT
If your objective is to purchase a flute for slow tempo (sad/sweet) song, avoid high G. High G is meant for bright, joyful, vigorous songs. High pitch flutes are called bangdi.
As your first flute, it's good enough to purchase an alto-D or alto-C flute. Such flutes are called qudi ("song flute").
Here's a very challenging piece called 陽明春曉 using a high A-pitch bangdi:
Very painful on my ears when I'm right next to the player!
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Post by manunart on Oct 30, 2013 5:39:38 GMT
Hi, Ed and Allen.
The 8 USD dizi I will consider this and made a try for the others key dizi.
Thank you for your advice about the suggestion on the slow tempo (sad/sweet) song. This help me not to lose the way of choosing dizi
I just purchased the Exquisite Master Class C key Dizi by Dong Xue Hua (USD 136.67) online. Since I couldn't wait for my wife trip to SG this coming December.
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Post by edcat7 on Oct 30, 2013 6:41:40 GMT
You've made an excellent choice. How to put the dimo on and it's age and quality will make a significant affect to the tone also. However as a beginner you won't notice the difference. Tell us what you think about it when you receive it.
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Post by davidmdahl on Oct 30, 2013 7:10:11 GMT
Good choice, Manunart. It is just as well you are having your dizi shipped, rather than waiting and having your wife go through the hassle of picking it up in Singapore.
When you get the dizi, you can find some good videos on gluing the dimo on the resource page of the old Eason website.
Have fun!
Best wishes,
David
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Post by manunart on Oct 30, 2013 19:02:53 GMT
Hi Ed and David,
I change the Dimo every 2-3 days as show in the youtube. Yes, sure I will share my comment about the DXH Dizi.
Yes, it's hassle to picking up Dizi at SG.
Here is what I play after 1 week practice by myself. I know I have to practice more and more.
Please give me any suggestion since I want to learn and I am very new on Dizi. Thank you.
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Post by Flolei on Oct 30, 2013 19:19:16 GMT
Thanks for sharing and congratulations for your first dizi recording. Although I like quite "reedy" dizi sound, I think that your dimo is really not tight enough (it's too loose). It can make the playing more difficult.
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Post by edcat7 on Oct 30, 2013 22:26:54 GMT
Wow that's great! Is that the above backing track in A? with the above jianpo? Therefore you're playing an A dizi...wooden? I'll have to ask my wife on how to download then. And buy an A dizi. Have you got a link to where you bought your A dizi? Flo is a much better dizi player than me so I don't have much to advise you.
How long have you been playing? (my mum is humming along to your dizi!) Either the tune is very simple or you are a natural!
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Post by edcat7 on Oct 30, 2013 22:41:19 GMT
Flo gave me some really good advice on playing "Autumn Meditation" in bass F with a bass G dizi. I have a low B dizi, is it possible to play in A key, as I'd rather do that than specifically buy an A dizi?
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Post by edcat7 on Oct 30, 2013 23:10:15 GMT
Can someone upload the jianpo please? I'm at my parents, and my mum and I are banging our heads against the wall.
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Post by Blue on Oct 31, 2013 0:47:54 GMT
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Post by edcat7 on Oct 31, 2013 1:51:01 GMT
Thanks Allen
I've stopped banging my head against the wall... but...I've only got a C dizi to hand and can't seem to follow manunart's tune. Are you sure it's the right jianpo? It might just be me though.
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Post by manunart on Oct 31, 2013 5:35:52 GMT
Flolei:HA HA, This is my first Dizi recording. Yes, I also think that the Dimo is not tight. For now, I don't know how tight I should apply the Dimo. Maybe I have to learn by myself by experience. Or do you have any tips on putting Dimo? Ed:The backing track is key A. I use “Audacity” for changing the MP3 key to D (I use Key D Dizi). I will post another topic about how to change key of the backing track soon. ^ ^ (I already posted it here: starvoid.proboards.com/thread/2032/change-backing-track-key)I don't know how to read Jianpo. I start with staff notes. (I have piano background) I think if you know how to read staff notes, it will easier for transpose the key. Because I use “Finale Music Notation Software” for transpose to any key in one-two click. I will post another topic about how to transpose the key using Finale soon. Dizi is my first wood wind instrument. I learn by myself for 1 week by searching google and from this valuable website. (Thank you for all) I brought my first Dizi on 22 Oct from here: www.meeboard.com/view.asp?user=thongyod&groupid=1&rid=69&qid=29Purple bamboo is about 44 USD. And for the bitter bamboo is about 38 USD. He claim that all of Dizi he sell made from Master “Paw” which is a good quality Dizi. However, I don’t know him.  Allen:Thank you for the Jianpo.
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Post by Flolei on Oct 31, 2013 8:47:35 GMT
Ed, if you have a headjoint on your Bb, you can stretch out your dizi and play in A (it's only half tone difference). More seriously, it's better to transpose the track in the key you want. Generally, you cannot do with all pieces what you do for Autumn meditation (which is written in F for G dizi). It must be written for this. For example, 挂红灯 is written in F for G bangdi. Besides this, it is easier with 7 holes dizi.
Manuart, at the beginning it's useful to look at yourself in a mirror when playing. It sounds narcissistic, but it's really good. When you blow, the dimo should not move are vibrate (the vibration should not be visible). To tighten the dimo, you must only very sightly and carefully stretch out the dimo with your thumbs at the both sides of the mokong.
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Post by Flolei on Oct 31, 2013 9:19:43 GMT
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Post by edcat7 on Oct 31, 2013 9:24:09 GMT
Great....Grrrr... time to go to work soon
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Post by manunart on Oct 31, 2013 10:41:21 GMT
Flolei:
Thank you for the hint about spot at the vibration of Dimo. This will help me a lot. I will keep an eye on the (no) vibration.
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Post by edcat7 on Nov 12, 2013 2:11:04 GMT
Thanks Flo, my teacher and I used Allen's third piece on a D dizi. |
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Post by edcat7 on Nov 13, 2013 1:50:47 GMT
Manunart I looked at the dizi version again and I think it's in a low G. Since you've picked up the dizi amazing quickly I'd recommend (only for you) to get a low G dizi. After that you can try "Autumn Meditation at the Dressing Table". |
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Post by edcat7 on Nov 13, 2013 1:57:10 GMT
I'm not sure how the above tune can be played on the hulusi, since the hulusi does not have note 4. To make life more simple for me could you upload the hulusi score please?
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