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Post by davidmdahl on May 1, 2016 19:57:23 GMT
There are some brick and mortar music stores here and there in the USA, such as Clarion and Chinese Arts and Music Center in San Francisco. If you can go there yourself, and choose from what they have, you have a chance at finding something suitable. I was there about ten years ago, but don't remember being impressed with very much. You will get a better instrument for the same price from an overseas source, but it depends on connections you can make. My first high quality dizi was from Tim Liu, in the New York area. You could contact him. You could also contact Sung Wah at Eason Music and special order just what you want. A low dizi with chromatic finger holes is not off-the-shelf anywhere I know of. The DXH xindi at Eason has seven holes, if I understand correctly. That will allow playing in more keys than the usual, but not quite completely chromatic. I think that they also have a dimo hole, which can be covered up of course, if you don't want that.
It might be simpler to find a bamboo flute maker near you, and have something made to your specs. If you don't need a dimo hole, then a Chinese source may be more trouble than necessary.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by westernmusician on May 2, 2016 20:09:13 GMT
I wish that that were possible, but unfortunately I live in North Carolina, and I don't really have access to tickets or the time to travel to San Francisco. If that is all you could find, thank you for taking the time to look. But if you are to find anything else, I will check this website everyday. So please post it.
Again, thank you.
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Post by davidmdahl on May 3, 2016 0:10:07 GMT
I wish that that were possible, but unfortunately I live in North Carolina, and I don't really have access to tickets or the time to travel to San Francisco. If that is all you could find, thank you for taking the time to look. But if you are to find anything else, I will check this website everyday. So please post it. Again, thank you. It is not clear to me what you hope to find. A bamboo flute with more than six or seven finger holes is going to be a special order from some place. For Chinese-made, contact Tim Liu in New York, or Sung Wah at Eason Music in Singapore. The contact info for both is easily available via Google. If you want something from closer to home, or at least US-based, then Google on bamboo flute makers and start sending some emails to likely makers. Be ready to spend some money. Another US-based source is possibly Datung Music, based in Las Vegas, I think. They sell mostly on Ebay, but there is a half-done website with contact information. They might take a special order. Best wishes, David |
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Post by westernmusician on May 3, 2016 1:55:46 GMT
what I would like to have is an actual xindi such as the pic below. But if I need to, I am willing to buy a da di and put painters tape over the monkong. I will take your advice and look for local dizi makers. thank you.
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Post by westernmusician on May 3, 2016 1:57:57 GMT
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Post by davidmdahl on May 3, 2016 5:21:37 GMT
That looks like a six hole dizi without the membrane hole. You will save yourself a lot of trouble by just ordering a standard dizi in the key you want, and plug up the dimo hole. There are plenty of bamboo flute makers in the USA who make six hole flutes in a variety of keys and scales, and you wouldn't have to plug anything up. Chinese flutes are probably cheaper though. D. |
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Post by Flolei on May 3, 2016 8:45:44 GMT
Actually you could buy a bansuri - a 6-holes bamboo flute without membrane. When they are well-made, they sound great.
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Post by Blue on May 3, 2016 13:06:34 GMT
Or simply plug the membrane hole with an earplug like this
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Post by westernmusician on May 4, 2016 1:39:40 GMT
What should I use to cover the membrane hole, so that it has the tone quality of a xindi. Even though earplugs might work, I would like a sort of tape maybe, so that I can peel it off if wanted. I heard scotch tape is bad. Maybe some painters tape, or something of the sort?
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Post by Flolei on May 4, 2016 6:58:00 GMT
You should use something which really "fill" the hole, otherwise the tone will not be good and it will even be difficult to blow correctly. I still don't understand why to buy a low dizi though. If you don't like the membrane sound, it is better to buy a world flute which has no membrane hole. so many exist...
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Post by westernmusician on May 4, 2016 11:36:05 GMT
the reason I want a dizi is so if I want to play a piece using the membrane, i will not have to go and go buy another flute. I can just take the tape, or whatever i use, off or out of the monkong, so that I can put the membrane on.
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Post by Flolei on May 4, 2016 12:33:19 GMT
I understand now. The only difficulty is to fill well the hole when playing without the membrane, as a bad covered hole makes the dizi sound really bad. Maybe make a special plug from cork which fits perfectly to the hole.
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Post by westernmusician on May 4, 2016 23:09:10 GMT
Do u have any recommendations as to what to yse to cover tge monkong. Painters tape maybe? I decided to go with a flute,in the key of G. Its about 18" long. and thoughts as to what type if dizi it is, pitch wise. Because i am unsure. Also, do u guys have any downloadable, or printable fingering charts, for a G dizi. It has six holes. I believe.
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Post by meoweth on Oct 15, 2016 10:01:33 GMT
Theres really no such thing afaik as a 10 or 11 hole chromatic keyless flute, Ive seen winson liao make some prototypes but he isnt going to sell it to you unless you can prove you are proficient enough to play something like that.
I would also recommend a good keyless irish flute instead of a dizi flute, as the quality and bore size of the irish keyless 6-holes are far superior to dizi. Get the dizi if you want the buzzing membrane, but I think that gets old. That being said, hearing a pro like chen yue play it just brings shivers up the spine. For me the irish flutes, especially something like the olwell bamboo flute is alot nicer and mellower, sounds like a xiao basically. Theres a forum called chiffandfipple you can find good used irish flutes there.
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Post by davidmdahl on Oct 16, 2016 0:50:27 GMT
I like keyed and keyless Irish flutes,and have several that are a lot of fun to play. For Chinese and Vietnamese music, these are not quite right for my ears. I use a Vietnamese sao in C when it works for the tune, or a dizi of the appropriate key with the dimo hole taped over. As for the quality, it is hard to argue that the typical $90 or less dizi is anywhere near a $1500+ Irish flute. However, the select DXH dizi flutes are quite good. I have a Ng Teck Seng D dizi on order. I will report on that when it arrives.
The Olwell bamboo flutes are wonderful. Unfortunately, they have been out of production for at least ten years, although it is possible that he has made a few from time to time. Patrick Olwell has been focusing on wood flutes, and pretty much sells all he makes. Used Olwell bamboo flutes come up once in a while, but people tend to hang on to them.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by meoweth on Oct 17, 2016 21:04:40 GMT
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