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Post by Blue on Jul 9, 2012 15:53:58 GMT
Somewhat off the cultural scope, but encountered quite a few musical instruments during a recent visit to Turkey including they Ney and the Oud. Unfortunately time constraints prevented me from venturing to try to Ney. There are many music shops located near the Aqueduct in Istanbul . . . . . .  Attachments:
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Post by edcat7 on Jul 10, 2012 14:31:19 GMT
There are obvious similarities between the ney and the xiao and the oud and the liuqin. I'm curious if the theme from 'Zorba the Greek' can be played on the liuqin.
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Post by davidmdahl on Jul 10, 2012 14:56:50 GMT
The oud was first. The concept spread throughout Europe and Asia, so the liuqin, pipa, and other lutes have a common ancestor.
The ney is a difference case though. The shape is similar to other flutes, but the playing technique is very different. The similaries of the xiao to the shakuhachi and tieu are more obvious, but I am not so sure about the ney.
Central Asian music can sound great on Chinese instruments. I have a lot of fun with tunes on erhu from Western China, that can sound a lot like Turkish music.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by edcat7 on Jul 10, 2012 15:37:58 GMT
Wow, you can play Uyghur music on the erhu? This I've gotta see.....please.
I'm interested in the Uyghur culture since as a former hand-pull noodle maker I saw a program on noodle making from the Uyghur region. There are a few Uyghur restaurants in shanghai.
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Post by Blue on Jul 10, 2012 15:47:55 GMT
What about this song that is supposedly from Xinjiang?
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Post by Blue on Jul 10, 2012 15:53:19 GMT
Very much wanted to purchase the Ney (~80 Turkish liras), but the instrument was way too long (like a low F non-root xiao). I did bring a dizi canvas bag, but it's only 73cm and can fit up to a certain Bb flute that somebody now owns . . . . . .
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Post by edcat7 on Jul 10, 2012 16:06:16 GMT
Oh well, there's always ebay.
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Post by davidmdahl on Jul 11, 2012 5:00:51 GMT
Wow, you can play Uyghur music on the erhu? This I've gotta see.....please. I'm interested in the Uyghur culture since as a former hand-pull noodle maker I saw a program on noodle making from the Uyghur region. There are a few Uyghur restaurants in shanghai. This is the group I played in last year. Please excuse the videography. Maybe it is best that you listen and not watch. www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHeuGwu9hgYBest wishes, David |
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Post by edcat7 on Jul 11, 2012 7:42:11 GMT
That's a beautiful tune David. Was that written by a Uyghur national? or rather in the style of Uyghur? Is the music in jianpo or staff notation?
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Post by davidmdahl on Jul 11, 2012 17:03:24 GMT
It is my understanding that "The Tulufan/Turpan Grapes are Ripe" (ͳ·¬µÄÆÏÌÑÊìÁË) is a folk song, but I don't know that for sure, or if it is truly from the Uighur tradition. The text for the second link below describes it as an "old Chinese folk song". Here are some vocal version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkzuBY7-faQwww.youtube.com/watch?v=yoqbI9ugxhcAs lovely as it is to hear, the tune is a thrill to play in a group. Best wishes, David |
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Post by edcat7 on Jul 11, 2012 21:09:00 GMT
Yes it sounds infinitely better played by an ensemble. I noticed the violin player.
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Post by Blue on Jul 16, 2012 14:52:07 GMT
This song (青春舞曲) is also supposedly form Xinjiang, but it has been too Sinicized:
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