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Post by edcat7 on May 16, 2012 15:27:09 GMT
I've just got a new hulusi. The vendor put it on youtube so I could hear it. It's made from ebony. During my last performance I was acutely aware of how poor my F hulusi sounded. The drone holes are exactly how I want them to be. I hope you can get on the link: www.youtube.com/watch?v=clx4l4PzS_w |
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Post by wenceslas on May 16, 2012 20:03:51 GMT
Wow cool!!! Where you buy it from?
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Post by xindi on May 16, 2012 20:57:39 GMT
That's very very smooth Ed. Really mellow - just like the ones in Yunnan.
They were selling around 600 Yuan for a low F Hulusi - the drone designs were different. But I guess it
would be possible to get it around 400Yuan for a decent one in China with the right language skills.
Do you not find this one has too slow a drone change?
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Post by edcat7 on May 16, 2012 21:38:36 GMT
All the 'professional' type drones I've seen are upside-down. It's easy, just swap the drones to the other side. The drone hole should be facing downwards and held in place (off) by the thumb. When the drone is needed just release the thumb.
My teacher dislikes non-bamboo instruments per se and his own F hulusi is built to industrial standards and is quite heavy. A lot of hulusis I've seen and bought online are quite flimsy. I wanted a hulusi that will last as long as me, hence the ebony. Luckily, it also sounds good to me.
Most hulusis on the internet are either in C or Bb. I paid extra for it to be made in F. I have a few scores and backing music in F. If it costs between 4-600 yuan in China then add on extra for the F and postage then I think what I paid for it was good value.
I asked the vendor to also include in the price 5 extra F reeds. They last a maximum of 3 years. The high notes are slowly going on my favourite C hulusi..after only just over a year...so I save it for performances.
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Post by edcat7 on May 16, 2012 21:52:33 GMT
Oh no! I've just noticed that on this particular type of hulusi the drones cannot be switched over to the other side. Well, the F tunes that I know of doesn't require the drone anyway. And if I did need it one day I could seal the open end and drill a hole on the other side.
I've ordered a G and this time the drone holes will be facing downwards.
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Post by edcat7 on May 16, 2012 23:07:42 GMT
I've just learnt about reverb. It sounds like the above hulusi tune was recorded with a bit a reverb. So that's how it sounds so good on cd!
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Post by wenceslas on May 17, 2012 5:12:27 GMT
Hey edcat7 where did you bought your hulusi?
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Post by edcat7 on May 17, 2012 6:19:45 GMT
ebay....type ebony hulusi
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Post by wenceslas on May 17, 2012 6:27:06 GMT
Ebay eason music?
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Post by edcat7 on May 17, 2012 9:19:26 GMT
no just eBay.
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Post by wenceslas on May 17, 2012 13:07:01 GMT
Ahhhh... there are just too many seller... nvm I guess I wait for your wooden dizi's review. Meanwhile save money. =)
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Post by edcat7 on May 17, 2012 14:12:42 GMT
Ha Ha... Have you tried double tongueing on a F hulusi? Start on something less difficult , 'Dance of the Yao Tribe' on a C hulusi. I know what you mean about saving money ; I've been on 'gardening leave' for the last month and there's only so much you can practise before you get bored and start buying things on eBay  |
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Post by wenceslas on May 17, 2012 14:24:47 GMT
Luckily I only like wind instrument... so will only spend money on wind instrument which usually won't cost more then 400 USD. =)
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Post by edcat7 on May 17, 2012 14:53:46 GMT
US$ 400 is alot of money for a Chinese wind instrument
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Post by wenceslas on May 17, 2012 16:17:48 GMT
Yes... For maestro grade dizi made by Mr Zhou Lin Sheng (can go up to 500 plus USD) or made by Mr Ng Teck Seng cost about 300 plus USD to 400 plus USD... the cost varies depending on the type of bamboo used, and age of bamboo & years of natural air drying. But of course if you are able to go to China to personally pick one, it cost lesser.
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Post by edcat7 on May 17, 2012 16:44:03 GMT
There was a dizi by Zhou Lin Sheng listed once. I made an offer of $200 which was flatly rejected. I'm glad I didn't buy it now. Xindi later wrote about it in which he said it was an awful amount to pay for the quality.
My teacher went to the Shanghai Expo and of the countless makers there he haggled for a XB, £20 knocked down to 15.
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Post by wenceslas on May 17, 2012 16:59:28 GMT
Xindi tried Mr Zhou Lin Sheng's dizi before? The one I tried was pretty good; I tried his bitter bambo alto E... its just that the price tag is abit too harsh... perhaps may be he is the mentor for so many well known dizi maker, thats why the value of his dizi when up alot. =) edcat7 are you trying to share a photo? Couldn't see anything... blank space...
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Post by edcat7 on May 17, 2012 17:04:22 GMT
My computer skills are so dire, I think I pressed the wrong button I have a DXH E which will lie around unplayed for the next couple of years. The tune I love is in E but is apparently grade 10 |
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Post by wenceslas on May 17, 2012 17:11:53 GMT
Cool... what piece is that? Mind sharing?
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Post by edcat7 on May 17, 2012 17:20:02 GMT
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrYqfkCuzLoMy teacher plays this piece well, actually his late best friend composed it. He will not let me go the next step if I haven't mastered what I'm on at present.
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Post by wenceslas on May 17, 2012 18:00:05 GMT
Cool!! I heard this before... but I prefer one more piece which the player, using dizi to imitate the sound of birds and nature... can't remember the name of the piece.
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Post by xindi on May 18, 2012 23:23:53 GMT
Xindi tried Mr Zhou Lin Sheng's dizi before? The one I tried was pretty good; I tried his bitter bambo alto E... its just that the price tag is abit too harsh... perhaps may be he is the mentor for so many well known dizi maker, thats why the value of his dizi when up alot. =) edcat7 are you trying to share a photo? Couldn't see anything... blank space... Ed's referring to this thread: starvoid.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Wind&action=display&thread=1494Yes I made it to Guangzhou (again) this year. It's not that the Zhou Lin Sheng are bad flutes - far from it. It's just that there are way better flutes for less than 1/2 the cost. The flute shops didn't recommend these ones in particular, however it's hard to believe the recommendation of any flute seller imho (goes against natural logic! Flute seller? Recommendation? Selling of course. Duhhhh!!!!  ) - The popular keys being sold out from his factory batch. The remainder - high F or a A or G key, were rather overpriced. Still, the shops consider that there are plenty of stoopid westerners willing to accept ticket price - 10% who still think they get a great discount lol. |
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Post by xindi on May 18, 2012 23:26:51 GMT
Cool!! I heard this before... but I prefer one more piece which the player, using dizi to imitate the sound of birds and nature... can't remember the name of the piece. Maybe the earpiercing koudi of Yu Xunfa's invention for the Miao Morning piece? www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Ei9KpBHHA |
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Post by wenceslas on May 19, 2012 9:30:34 GMT
Hey Xindi, some flute sellers that I know of do that... its to keep loyal customers... =) And yupz Mr Zhou Lin Sheng's flute is crazily overpriced but I thought it would be cheaper if you go over to china to buy?
Cool man the koudi!!! Once I learnt enough for my bangdi and qudi I'm going to learnt Koudi!!! Thanks for sharing.
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Post by edcat7 on May 19, 2012 10:31:14 GMT
The koudi seems rather cool too. I wonder if there is jianpo available for such tunes. I'm sure there are good deals in China if you don't look like a tourist. One of my teacher's other student bought a beautiful 4* erhu for £100 whilst working there.
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) - The popular keys being sold out from his factory batch. The remainder - high F or a A or G key, were rather overpriced.