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Post by lumry on Aug 29, 2006 12:24:38 GMT
hey i was wondering if some one can explain to me what a gayagum is. and apparently the kayagum was renamed as the gayagum in mondern day is this true? is it hard to play compared to the guzheng, how different is it from koto? and where can i get one in toronto with teachers?
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Post by Charlie Huang on Aug 29, 2006 15:55:12 GMT
Kayagum is the, erm.... can't pronunce or remember how to spell the name of the romanisation; gayageum is the revised Korean romanisation. Link to some vids here: itc.uci.edu/~rgarfias/kiosk/media.html
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Post by carol on Aug 29, 2006 19:58:34 GMT
It's kayagum, but the Korean pronouciation sounds like gayagum, so some people also write is as gayagum or gayageum.
It looks more like a koto, but I would say the playing way is very different. In turns of pluckings, koto is more like guzheng than kayagum. In kayagum, you pluck with your bare fingers. With every pluck, you turn your wrist out to add the strength.
I also learned koto and kayagum before, and I found koto much easier to learn.
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Post by davidmdahl on Aug 29, 2006 21:11:20 GMT
I am not surprised that you found the kayagum to be challenging, Carol. How much of that was due to the music rather than the instrument itself? Korean music in general is more difficult for me to comprehend, compared with Chinese and Vietnamese music at least. Much of what I have heard seemed more gestural and declamatory than melodic. I listen to Korean music once in a while to stretch my ears. The sanjo form is pretty interesting on kayagum and flute, but it is a challenge for Western ears.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by lumry on Aug 29, 2006 21:51:09 GMT
i know one thing for sure is that the kayagum has a much more flater sound than the koto, it sound like an interesting instrument to learn, any one know of any websites with instruction on how to play and what is the cost of a kayagum
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Post by davidmdahl on Aug 29, 2006 22:15:21 GMT
i know one thing for sure is that the kayagum has a much more flater sound than the koto, <snip> What do you mean by "flater"? Best wishes, David
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Post by carol on Aug 29, 2006 22:27:21 GMT
Actually, I enjoy Korean traditional music a lot. It's definetely not melodic, but I found it to be rhythmic and story telling like. I also like the sinawi ensemble which each instrument improvise at the moment. I found it similar to the chaozhou music style chinese ensemble that was often played in the tea house. The only thing I don't like is the nongak percussion ensemble which is too loud and noisy for me. I found kayagum harder technically. The way it's plucked is very different from other Asian zithers, and the bending is complicated too. There is lots of kayagum music available at: 203.252.231.26/ Hanullium is the only factory with English information I found. I bought a kayagum from them earlier. A descent quality one cost about $1200-$1500. www.hanullimdrum.com/english/
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Post by Charlie Huang on Aug 29, 2006 23:52:02 GMT
Wow! Thanks for the link, Carol-san! Though I can't understand a word of Korean, I managed to find the page which lists the gayageums! Some are quite cheap (from £350 to £800 on my calculations). I'd love to get one and have a good go at it! Also, interested in Ajaeng as well, would be good for improvs.
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Post by SCWGuqin on Aug 30, 2006 1:00:50 GMT
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Post by lumry on Aug 30, 2006 1:57:57 GMT
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Post by carol on Aug 30, 2006 2:44:07 GMT
I think you mean "muted". The way kayagum is played is you actually stop the extension sound with your your finger when you don't need to bend the notes. It does last very long if you pluck it without stopping the sound. Also it's plucked with bare fingers rather than picks or finger nails, so it sounds deeper and muted.
That kayagum piece video isplayed by the Chinese Chosen minority, who are with Korean origin. The way they play kayagum is kind of different from what Koreans play. They adopted so many guzheng techniques and body motion when playing kayagum.
The guzheng piece is called "Sunrise over Jingan Moutain".
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