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Post by Dick on Nov 30, 2007 22:23:04 GMT
Looks like I get to visit Viet Nam around the Xmas and New Year holidays. I would like to connect with music / musicians while there if possible. Especially cherish chance to meet flute maker or hear authentic local music. Anyone got pointers to Sao Truc Viet Nam, or Sao Meo, or other flutes of interest? Thanks!
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Post by davidmdahl on Dec 1, 2007 2:23:04 GMT
Hello Dick!
It is great to hear from you after such a long time. I hope all is well with you and your family.
It is wonderful that you will visit Vietnam. I am very jealous.
If you can clarify where in Vietnam you will be, I will see who is a good contact for you. The trouble I have had is that many of the best musicians, and so far all of the instrument makers, only speak Vietnamese. You may need to arrange for someone to accompany you to translate.
In Saigon, there is the Tieng Hat Que Huong group led by co Thuy Hoan. There is a conservatory in Hanoi as well, but I don't know anyone there. The Vietnamese Institute for Musicology in Hanoi is a possible resource for contacts.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by davidmdahl on Dec 1, 2007 2:28:06 GMT
Minh Dao is a real hot-shot on the sao (Vietnamese flute). He now lives in the USA, but may have some contacts in the Saigon area. www.minhdao.com/Best wishes, David |
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Post by Dick on Dec 4, 2007 3:47:20 GMT
David, thanks so much for those pointers. I still look in on the forum occasionally, but to tell the truth I don't often feel inspired to write much.
You (and Carlos) might be happy to know that last year and this I've been supporting the wind section of Warren Chang's Seattle Chinese Orchestra. The principal flutist is Wayne Yee, a heckuva sweet cat and wonderful instrumentalist. It's a real privilege, not to mention a great learning opportunity, to sit next to him in the section.
Anyhow, for our winter trip, we are still figuring out our itinerary, so within reason we should be able to go where I want based on interests. We'll have it all nailed down in a week or so, I guess. The main problem (as often with us) is that time will be short. We invariably try to see and do way too much on our junkets. We want to visit Hanoi for sure, and I'm interested to see the ancient capital at Hue.
I searched around on Minh Dao's website over the weekend. There's a lot of info there about himself and his fine ensemble and his excellent accomplishments. Unfortunately, I didn't find much to help me understand how Vietnamese flutes are like or unlike their Chinese (or Hindustani, etc) cousins. Got any tips about understanding the fundamentals?
thanks!
--Dick
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Post by davidmdahl on Dec 4, 2007 4:21:42 GMT
You (and Carlos) might be happy to know that last year and this I've been supporting the wind section of Warren Chang's Seattle Chinese Orchestra. What a wonderful opportunity! Good for you. Anyhow, for our winter trip, we are still figuring out our itinerary, so within reason we should be able to go where I want based on interests. We'll have it all nailed down in a week or so, I guess. The main problem (as often with us) is that time will be short. We invariably try to see and do way too much on our junkets. We want to visit Hanoi for sure, and I'm interested to see the ancient capital at Hue. I did not make it to Hue, much to my disappointment. There is plenty to see in just Hanoi and Hue. You could skip Saigon unless you want to see a modern Vietnamese city. It certainly has its charms, though. I don't see how you could go wrong either way. In Hanoi, be sure to see Hoan Kiem Lake, and the Temple of Literature (Van Mieu). I understand that sometimes there are musical performances at Van Mieu. I am not sure how to find out when. Also, Hanoi is the center of the rebirth of Ca Tru singing. I could find out where to go if you are interested. I searched around on Minh Dao's website over the weekend. There's a lot of info there about himself and his fine ensemble and his excellent accomplishments. Unfortunately, I didn't find much to help me understand how Vietnamese flutes are like or unlike their Chinese (or Hindustani, etc) cousins. Got any tips about understanding the fundamentals? The flute (sao) does not seem to be at the center of Vietnamese traditional music, at least in the way that the dizi is to Chinese music, or the bansuri is to Hindustani. In the recordings I have, the sao adds color in an ensemble. There are some big showpieces for sao, but they are modern conservatory compositions. I have heard sao in Hat Cheo, a form of folk drama, and Ngam Tho, sung poetry. I have a flute that I bought on the street in Saigon that has a membrane hole like the dizi, but I have never heard this sound in a recording of Vietnamese music. The most typical size is in the piccolo range in the key of B or C, or something in between. I have seen larger flutes, but don't recall hearing much of them. The tieu is a an end-blown flute like the xiao or shakuhachi. I met one fellow who plays the tieu accompanying Hat Cheo and Tuong dramas. Most of the Vietnamese flutes are six hole, like traditional flutes elsewhere, and with a narrow bore. In a Hanoi restaurant, the flute player was using one with ten holes that allowed him complete freedom to play in any key. He was quite amazing. I saw other flutes in his bag of various sizes, including one with a membrane, but he only played the small ten-holer when I was there. Best wishes, David |
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Post by Dick on Dec 5, 2007 18:04:20 GMT
That's some great information, David. Thank you so much! Yes, I would appreciate it a lot if you could follow up on Ca Tru singing in Hanoi or elsewhere in the north.
I am on-board with your idea about Saigon, namely don't care to put a lot of effort in visiting yet another mostly modern city. Our return flight is from there, so we'll likely put in a day or two there in any case.
By the way, any chance you could recommend a couple of CD's to help me 'cram' on Hat Cheo, Ngam Tho, conservatory works, etc?
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Post by davidmdahl on Dec 5, 2007 23:52:58 GMT
Many of the best CDs of Vietnamese music take some resourcefullness to find, but there are some really good ones available. There are also a few worthwhile performances on Youtube.com. Entire CDs of traditional Vietnamese music are available on www.multiply.com, if you are not averse to that. I can provide some links if you are interested. I will get you some info in the near future. In the meantime, check out the following Ca Tru performance: www.youtube.com/watch?v=deDZmPLf8ngBest wishes, David |
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Post by davidmdahl on Dec 6, 2007 4:24:29 GMT
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Post by Dick on Dec 23, 2007 22:28:05 GMT
Okay David. Thanks again for your pointers. We are on our way tomorrow! I expect to be off-line for the duration of course. If there's anything worthwhile to report, I'll post here upon return.
Happy Xmas, everybody!
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Post by reazor on Aug 22, 2013 20:26:07 GMT
David, thanks so much for those pointers. I still look in on the forum occasionally, but to tell the truth I don't often feel inspired to write much. You (and Carlos) might be happy to know that last year and this I've been supporting the wind section of Warren Chang's Seattle Chinese Orchestra. The principal flutist is Wayne Yee, a heckuva sweet cat and wonderful instrumentalist. It's a real privilege, not to mention a great learning opportunity, to sit next to him in the section. Anyhow, for our winter trip, we are still figuring out our itinerary, so within reason we should be able to go where I want based on interests. We'll have it all nailed down in a week or so, I guess. The main problem (as often with us) is that time will be short. We invariably try to see and do way too much on our junkets. We want to visit Hanoi for sure, and I'm interested to see the ancient capital at Hue. I searched around on Minh Dao's website over the weekend. There's a lot of info there about himself and his fine ensemble and his excellent accomplishments. Unfortunately, I didn't find much to help me understand how Vietnamese flutes are like or unlike their Chinese (or Hindustani, etc) cousins. Got any tips about understanding the fundamentals? thanks! --Dick Hello Dick, I am looking for mr. Wayne Yee flutist. Do you know his any contacts? Seems like he changed his phone before I contacted him by this number 2067674707. But now somebody else on this number. Please if you know his contact let me know . |
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Post by reazor on Aug 22, 2013 20:34:22 GMT
Hello All,
I am looking for Mr. Waynee Yee flutist.
I want take lessons with him.
He changed his phone what was 2067674707.
And now I cannot reach him. Please anyone who knows his phone or email let me know.
Any info would be helpful.
Thank you
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Post by davidmdahl on Aug 22, 2013 22:59:03 GMT
Hello All, I am looking for Mr. Waynee Yee flutist. I want take lessons with him. He changed his phone what was 2067674707. And now I cannot reach him. Please anyone who knows his phone or email let me know. Any info would be helpful. Thank you Dick has not participated in the forum for years. I don't know how to reach Mr. Yee, but you might contact Warren Chang. He should know have more current contact information if Mr. Yee is still in the area. Otherwise, Warren may be able to refer you to another teacher for dizi. Best wishes, David |
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Post by davidmdahl on Aug 22, 2013 23:59:35 GMT
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jock
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Post by jock on Oct 12, 2013 9:25:47 GMT
Anyone interested in Dizi, can view my signature.
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