Northern Xiao

[dizifun]

I am wondering why northern Xiao has a very long tail.

Does the extra long tail make better sound ?

Is it only ornament ?

My G-key NanXiao is only 55 cm.

[meoweth]

longer ones are easier to make. shorter ones are harder to make, but cheap shorter ones could just be crappier quality.

[dizifun]

Nov 18, 2017 11:43:18 GMT meoweth said:

longer ones are easier to make. shorter ones are harder to make, but cheap shorter ones could just be crappier quality.

Hi meoweth,



Shakuhachi is short, and very expensive.



I have similar short NanXiao as the one you showed below. The mouthpiece of my Xiao is U shaped. What do you think about the sound quality of the Xiao you showed ? It is inexpensive, but the built quality seems good. However, I am still learning to produce good sound, and improving slowly. I can not tell the sound quality of the Xiao yet.



ru.aliexpress.com/item/Wooden-Tang-shakuhachi-flute-outer-incision-South-xiao-Musical-Instruments-Woodwind-Instruments-flauta-Piccolo/32458965679.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0&dp=9435e9130c66dfae2aef3fb2bbe1cd6b&af=240682&cv=47843&afref=http%253A%252F%252Fstarvoid.proboards.com%252Fthread%252F2616%252Fchossing-first-xiao&mall_affr=pr3&aff_platform=aaf&cpt=1511054254724&sk=VnYZvQVf&aff_trace_key=b1b0ed3461b241d3931f01e923aef3c3-1511054254724-00175-VnYZvQVf&terminal_id=9f0d7e8e36144717b0449b8766590f59



starvoid.proboards.com/thread/2616/chossing-first-xiao

[dawei]

I think is is different designs. The longer thin xiao can be more of a qinxiao, the shorter ones often are larger bore and louder...at least the ones I've seen and own.

[dizifun]

Nov 20, 2017 9:06:23 GMT dawei said:

I think is is different designs. The longer thin xiao can be more of a qinxiao, the shorter ones often are larger bore and louder...at least the ones I've seen and own.

I was wondering why qinxiao had very long tail.

Does the extra long tail make better sound ? What is the basic idea of the designs ?



I think I can understand that the shorter ones often are larger bore and louder.

[dawei]

Dec 22, 2017 4:46:06 GMT dizifun said:

Nov 20, 2017 9:06:23 GMT dawei said:

I think is is different designs. The longer thin xiao can be more of a qinxiao, the shorter ones often are larger bore and louder...at least the ones I've seen and own.

I was wondering why qinxiao had very long tail.

Does the extra long tail make better sound ? What is the basic idea of the designs ?



I think I can understand that the shorter ones often are larger bore and louder.

I'm not sure of the history, but the extra long "tail" is another variation of flute.

I've seen both xiao and dizi with variations:

one piece with extended tube length ("tail")

2 piece with extended tube length ("tail") - tunable, often listed as "plugable" in translation in the ads

one piece without extended tube length ("tail")

2 piece without extended tube length

and for xiao alone, 

3 piece with extended tube length

1 piece with slight extended tube length and root bamboo end

All versions can be made to play well, it depends on the skill of the maker.

[dizifun]

Dec 22, 2017 10:35:13 GMT dawei said:

Dec 22, 2017 4:46:06 GMT dizifun said:

I was wondering why qinxiao had very long tail.

Does the extra long tail make better sound ? What is the basic idea of the designs ?



I think I can understand that the shorter ones often are larger bore and louder.

I'm not sure of the history, but the extra long "tail" is another variation of flute.

I've seen both xiao and dizi with variations:

one piece with extended tube length ("tail")

2 piece with extended tube length ("tail") - tunable, often listed as "plugable" in translation in the ads

one piece without extended tube length ("tail")

2 piece without extended tube length

and for xiao alone, 

3 piece with extended tube length

1 piece with slight extended tube length and root bamboo end

All versions can be made to play well, it depends on the skill of the maker.

Thank you very much dawei for the detailed explanations.