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Post by dizifun on Sept 23, 2017 22:29:43 GMT
I am a novice, and recently got 2 Dizi (key C and key D).
I like the beautiful sounds.
Can I just play the Dizi all holes closed at middle C of western 5 line music notes ?
Thank you very much.
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Post by dawei on Sept 24, 2017 16:06:44 GMT
Your Dizi in C and D have the lowest notes of G and A respectively.
To play a C with all holes closed you need an F diao dizi.
You can play a C note with 3 holes closed on your C dizi, but the note will be one octave above middle C.
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Post by dizifun on Sept 24, 2017 18:10:04 GMT
Thank you very much Dawei for your responses.
I was wondering if Dizi is transposing instrument. While, I don’t know the details, for instance, the shinobue (transverse Japanese bamboo flute) is a transposing instrument, and the actual tone varies depending on the length of tube. It was mentioned, if we don’t play with other instruments, we can play any length of shinobue without modifying the music sheet.
Shinobue key C is C when all wholes are closed (lowest note). Therefore, it seams that Dizi key C correspond to Shinobue key G. Is this right ?
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Post by dawei on Sept 25, 2017 13:09:05 GMT
Thank you very much Dawei for your responses. I was wondering if Dizi is transposing instrument. While, I don’t know the details, for instance, the shinobue (transverse Japanese bamboo flute) is a transposing instrument, and the actual tone varies depending on the length of tube. It was mentioned, if we don’t play with other instruments, we can play any length of shinobue without modifying the music sheet. Shinobue key C is C when all wholes are closed (lowest note). Therefore, it seams that Dizi key C correspond to Shinobue key G. Is this right ? Yes, since they assume the key note to be different holes on each type flute. My shinobue are 7 hole, BTW. You also play dizi music on any key dizi as long as you are alone or the other musicians transpose too.
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Post by dizifun on Sept 25, 2017 21:15:03 GMT
Thank you Dawei, I also have 7 holes shinobue.
I need some corrections. “Shinobue key C is C when all wholes are closed (lowest note)” should be “Shinobue key C is C (Do) when 6 holes are closed”. The 7 th hole for the little finger is a kind of supplemental hole. If the all holes are closed it sounds “La”. The popular 7 holes shinobue is for playing (western style) songs. The 6 holes one is traditional shinobue.
Shinobue has a similar numbering system to Dizi. However, it is “1" when 6 holes are closed. Dizi fingering system is very hard for me. It is “5" when all holes are closed.
I am trying to pretend it is “1" when all holes are closed with dizi. Please let me know if you see any problem. One problem is that I can’t use Jianpu since I can’t play the notes with lower dot. Nevertheless, I like dizi sound with the membrane.
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Post by dawei on Sept 26, 2017 7:34:03 GMT
You can read music on a dizi as if it were the same as a shinobue (7th hole excepted); even though the basic key of a dizi is based on 3 holes closed, you can read music in several keys.
You can play as if the lowest hole, all 6 closed is 1; it can also be 2, 4, 6, etc.
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Post by dizifun on Sept 26, 2017 17:13:11 GMT
Thank you very much Dawei. It was indeed very helpful.
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Post by dawei on Sept 27, 2017 12:55:16 GMT
Here are a couple of fingering charts for 2 different key dizi, and each has the numbers for playing in 2 keys. You can also play in other keys too.
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Post by dizifun on Sept 28, 2017 2:08:17 GMT
Here are a couple of fingering charts for 2 different key dizi, and each has the numbers for playing in 2 keys. You can also play in other keys too. Thank you very much Dawei. I think that the charts nicely illustrate what you mentioned. By the way, I found a Zianpu of 寒山僧蹤 譜 in the internet. Do you know any slow song like 寒山僧蹤 譜 written in 5 line notes ? Recently I got a G-key NanXiao with 8 holes. It may take long time to make good sounds. I am looking for very easy bigginer's songs good for NanXiao shown below. imgur.com/a/Njctm
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Post by dizifun on Sept 29, 2017 18:43:15 GMT
Here are a couple of fingering charts for 2 different key dizi, and each has the numbers for playing in 2 keys. You can also play in other keys too. I have a question. Your fingering chart shows that the second hole is open at 1, 2, and 3. On the other hand, the second hole is closed at 1, 2, and 3 in the fingering chart shown below. www.goamcan.com/imports/How-to-play-dizi.htmlWhich is correct ? I think it is easy to hold the Dizi with the closed second hole. Thank you
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Post by dawei on Sept 30, 2017 13:41:36 GMT
I've seen somewhat different fingering charts in various books and websites. Not all my dizi work equally well with the same fingerings, so experiment and see what works on your own flutes.
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