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Post by sleepy on Jun 7, 2006 5:02:17 GMT
Can't post any reply there so I jumped to here and express a little feedback.
Regarding newbies, there is a very great chance that they'll bypass this and the "Welcome" forum, and go directly to post in the forums of their choice. Perhaps the rules and any amenment could be presented to new members upon registration (though I don't remember if I was ever communicated on such contents when I registered), for example, by sending a private welcome message by default.
Regarding merchants using the forums to promote their products, I have encountered some rather sneaky business dealers posing as satisfied buyers of certain products in other forums. If you don't want anyone to negatively comment on any commercial products, perhaps all of us should also avoid "glorifying" any products?
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Post by Charlie Huang on Jun 7, 2006 8:17:46 GMT
Well, I don't know how to present the infomation upon registration. This forum is rather limited...
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Post by davidmdahl on Jun 7, 2006 9:18:48 GMT
Well, the rules are there, but we can't make people read them unfortunately. It is similarly impossible to make people use common sense and discretion. Fortunately, most musicians who love Chinese music and instruments have excellent common sense and discretion. I am uncomfortable with blatant attempts by vendors to hawk their wares on the forum, particularly when they do not otherwise contribute to the fund of knowledge. I am also uncomfortable with personal attacks on others, vendors or not. I am interested in honest accounts of good and bad personal experiences with vendors. This can be very useful for many on the forum. Problems should be resolved in private if possible. Opinions on vendors and their products by people who have no personal experience with the vendors or their products are not useful. That is simply gossip. That is my opinion. Best wishes, David
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Post by sleepy on Jun 7, 2006 12:38:07 GMT
Somehow I feel I hit on a nerve again. Only making suggestion to find ways to communicate the rules of the game more effectively.
I wouldn't assume everyone to apply the same level of common sense since what's "common" in one's mind might not be that common to others. If newbies break any rule just because they are unaware of them and then the Admin body get frustrated, such instances could be avoided if there has been prior effective communication.
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Post by calden on Jun 7, 2006 14:10:37 GMT
In my opinion, few people read forum rules. They're basically the same for most forums - don't attack people personally, don't use foul language, stick to the general purpose of the forums, don't spam, etc. - so it's generally assumed that a newcomer knows what to expect. I think we've generally seen good behavior here.
I don't really mind if a vendor pushes their stuff here. I read what people say and use judgement as to the veracity of their statements, and it's pretty obvious to me pretty quickly if they've got something up their sleeve. Also, if there's a real scam artist it becomes apparent in the way they communicate.
So, Sleepy, although I generally agree with you and like your idea - it would be great to have some kind of a welcome message which includes a few expectations - I don't think it's necessary yet. I sure hope we can continue moving along as we have done, and don't need it to become necessary.
Maybe when Chinese music becomes so popular we'll turn into another Myspace.com - then we'll need to tighten things up (humor.)
Carlos as always, only my meager and humble opinion
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Post by davidmdahl on Jun 7, 2006 15:22:06 GMT
Very well said, Carlos.
Best wishes,
David
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