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Post by twilgihtbliss on Oct 23, 2006 2:05:36 GMT
Yes, David posted those. Yinhao is also having a new batch comming in which I would like to take a look at. Mainly I am still waiting on a teacher. A person I know said they remember a teacher, they know where he lives but they don't have a way to contact them, I'm still waiting on that contact too as well as the person Yinhao mentioned in Vancouver, but shes busy. Also waiting for a reply for a local chinese arts troupe.
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Oct 23, 2006 6:07:51 GMT
pardon...
Xing Zhou Zhu Yun is made for STUDENTS, usually primary school students.
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Oct 23, 2006 6:09:57 GMT
I just managed to call her by the way.
she is expecting delivery in 24 hours. ALL‚s‚g‚dBEST‚s‚nHER!
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Post by song on Oct 23, 2006 6:58:47 GMT
They are not the top end dizis from Ng TS, but they are definitely not student dizis. If need, I can get Ng TS to come here to verify. He might have more than a few things to say. But hey, lets keep this forum friendly and refrain from commenting about other's product.
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Oct 23, 2006 14:17:24 GMT
Song is right. Those really are good dizi. The Ng TS high end ones are much better than that though. Actually mine are student dizis too, at $40.
Sorry for sounding a bit rude. I was kinda surprised that they were described as unsurpassed quality. Ng TS was my teacher, and i still hold him in high regard. Sorry about that apparently rude remark.
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Oct 23, 2006 14:20:52 GMT
And in Singapore, STUDENT dizis are good dizis cos our students need to compete in competitions every other year. The dizis MUST be in tune or the entire orchestra piece will just flop. Dizis are also such important instruments, without which the musc will just flop.
Hence, Dizis from Singapore, at student model are actually considered "Professional" in China
BTW, i went to your shop today, and bought a couple of very high end bows for my exports, with faux snake skin handle. They were way so cool.
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Post by twilgihtbliss on Oct 23, 2006 21:02:46 GMT
Well, to clarify the $50 Dizi is better than the $40 Dizi? For beginners? But both are still good for beginners? Also, song I noticed this on the eBay item:
Starting time: Sep-24-06 18:00:36 PDT Duration: 30-day listing
So won't the time be up tomorrow?
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Post by davidmdahl on Oct 23, 2006 23:44:14 GMT
It is often very difficult to make any sense out of Ebay or website postings of instruments for sale. In particular "professional" is overused to the point that it is meaningless. Higher cost is not even a reliable indicator of higher quality. When "unsurpassed" is superceded by a yet higher model, what are we to think? I am waiting for the "Touched by the Gods" model. What could be better than that? Best wishes, David
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Post by jetz320 on Oct 23, 2006 23:56:43 GMT
What's "Touched by the Gods" model? It sounds like it's some Holy Dizi that is only for the pros and only 3 were made or something!
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Post by twilgihtbliss on Oct 23, 2006 23:57:11 GMT
I was not considering by the words displayed but rather the opionions of the members of this forum.
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Post by jetz320 on Oct 24, 2006 0:08:52 GMT
If you want to start learning dizi so bad, then why don't you just start? No offence, but to me, it sounds like you want to make sure that you have a really good dizi and that it's not a cheap one or whatever. Of course every musician wants that; but we've given you SO MUCH ADVICE ALREADY!!!!!!! Why aren't you just considering? Just lighten up. The dizi is such a cool instrument. If I were you; I wouldn't care! I'd just hurry up and buy an Intermediate Model and play. I started out with a "Silvoneir Dizi" that I bought in SF Chinatown!!!! I didn't get an intermediate dizi till about 1-2 years after I started!!!! Just go with one.
A good dizi for intermediate: Tunable and silk binding.
Ok!!!! Buy one that you like for now. If you enjoy dizi, then buy a pro one or a better one. You shouldn't spen so much time on deciding on a good dizi that'll last forever. I'd just hurry up and buy one to start crankin' out that cool dizi music!!!!!! When you buy one, you wouldn't care what quality it is, you're just going to be so happy that you have a dizi to actually play.
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Post by twilgihtbliss on Oct 24, 2006 0:24:54 GMT
I do want to start really badly. The problem is that I am still waiting on a teacher, I've contacted every possible person I can but need to wait on them to reply. Since I am still going to have to wait several days or weeks I thought I might as well find a good Dizi. If the option was presented to me to have just any Dizi and be able to start right away I would love to take that offer, but sadly that offer is not on the table. Sorry if I'm comming across on this topic as very picky, but I am just doing what I can do before actually having a teacher.
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Post by jetz320 on Oct 24, 2006 2:06:54 GMT
Yes. But you don't have to buy a good pro one for a beginner. I understand your position. I've played erhu for about 2 years and I just started taking lessons in the beginning of Spetember this year. You can start to fool around, and then starting lessons, you have some knowlege on how to play and do things with the instrument.
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Post by song on Oct 24, 2006 2:19:28 GMT
The subjective descriptive words are used to attract potential customers to the postings, without crossing the boundary of misrepresentation - in the same vein as claims by Calsberg - probaby the best beer in the world or Heinliken - possibly the best beer in the world. The most important thing is that the customer feels what he/she bought is worth the price paid. If not, we gladly refund the money in full.
I'm also surprised by lots of things i read in this forum, but I'm not in the business of pooping parties, unless I'm one of the guests.
Twilight, I've not seen the $40 dizi by Yinhao so I can't comment on its quality, but it should be fine. If you're thinking of getting two why not get a Ng TS dizi from me and one from Yinhao and you can compare. I can even pass the dizi to Yinhao (if he is agreeable) and he can combine shipping.
Thanks, Sung Wah
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Post by twilgihtbliss on Oct 24, 2006 2:20:19 GMT
Responding the jetz.
You see the problem is, with all the different keys the Dizi can come in, say I go ahead and purchase one. When I meet the teacher he tells me that he needs me to have a different key Dizi. So I have to know which one(s) the teacher wants me to have before I buy, unless I purchase a whole set, which is...well a bit much.
Thank you Sung for you suggestion. If it does end up with me buying 2 Dizi perhaps I might try buying one of each, unless, well the teacher suggests otherwise.
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Post by davidmdahl on Oct 24, 2006 3:38:40 GMT
The subjective descriptive words are used to attract potential customers to the postings, without crossing the boundary of misrepresentation - I know that and expect it. My post was tongue-in-cheek, as we say. By no means did I mean to imply that there is anything improper or dishonorable going on. I was just amused at some absurdities and wanted to have some fun with the observations. I suppose that is better done in private over a beer. I hope someday to visit Singapore and make amends for my ribbing by treating you and Yinhao to the best beer Singapore has to offer. Or if you could make it to Portland, I will treat you to certainly the best beer in the world. In either case, tunes afterward. Best wishes, David
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Post by jetz320 on Oct 24, 2006 22:10:12 GMT
Buy a set then. The most common dizi that teachers recommend is G and D key. It's the beggining flute and the most commonly used because the note D (Western D) is the Chinese Doh.
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Post by twilgihtbliss on Oct 25, 2006 1:02:57 GMT
It's Okay. I've managed to be able to contact a teacher but he might not be able to teach. His going to be meeting his friends aporximently next week who also teach/play the Dizi. So, next week his going to be asking if any of his friends have time. So by next week or the week after I might have a teacher! Finally!
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Post by song on Oct 25, 2006 1:38:25 GMT
No offence taken David. Beer and tunes afterwards sounds good.
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Oct 25, 2006 3:38:42 GMT
song!
are u back yet? If not could u hep me purchase the piece of plastic on the erhu we use to protect the skin from bow rubbing? In Fantasia, we like to use the preformed type from Dunhuang/Shanghai. I asked Hu han Rou to help me get as well, but u could get 300 pieces?
thanks!
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Post by song on Oct 26, 2006 3:17:30 GMT
Sorry dude. I'm back in Singapore already on Sunday.
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Oct 26, 2006 14:49:42 GMT
nvm done. I just updated the dizi page www.cadenzamusic.biz/dizi.htmThere's a video for the sound test. I think this is rather important foro dizis.
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Post by davidmdahl on Oct 26, 2006 15:18:29 GMT
The dizi's look great and I love the videos, YouLanFengChune! You have some serious chops my friend. I look forward to playing my new flute. Has my package shipped?
Best wishes,
David
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Post by PassionForTheWinds on Oct 26, 2006 16:16:15 GMT
The last video is what your name is right? hehe
Anw any unjointed ones like the previous series?
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Oct 27, 2006 2:01:15 GMT
yes the last video is You Lan Feng Chune. I won a prize for playing it some years back. In My next series, this grade will be unjointed. It was preordered though. I wanna order one too?
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