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Post by blueharp on Jan 12, 2006 8:57:47 GMT
I snuck over from the guqin/guzheng forum ;D Here is a link for Karen Han playing some Fritz Kreisler on erhu: www.karenhan.com/KarenhanVideoClip.htmlIt is pretty amazing as that piece is a killer on violin from what I understand. Steve (secret fiddle player) |
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Post by paulv on Jan 12, 2006 14:05:55 GMT
Steve,
You can "sneak" over anytime -- cross pollination is a healthy thing! I try and stay away from the guzheng area since a guzheng has more strings than an erhu and two strings is enough for my feeble little brain!!!
I've always enjoyed Karen Han's movie soundtrack work and have the Joy Luck Club and Last Emperor CDs -- will also get the Memoirs of a Geisha soon.
Regards,
Paul
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Post by calden on Jan 12, 2006 16:05:00 GMT
I snuck over from the guqin/guzheng forum ;D Here is a link for Karen Han playing some Fritz Kreisler on erhu: www.karenhan.com/KarenhanVideoClip.htmlIt is pretty amazing as that piece is a killer on violin from what I understand. Steve (secret fiddle player) Okay, I give up. Carlos |
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Post by maaltan on Jan 12, 2006 21:44:49 GMT
As one who has still not even seen a erhu in person. that video was very informative. I think it had an example of every fingering position ou can do in the erhu. Must extract every frame and identify each note from fingering. Unfortunately it ended right when it was getting good.  |
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Post by carol on Jan 13, 2006 5:42:56 GMT
I would like to say Karan Han's version of "Er Quan ying yue" made me decide to learn Erhu in near future. I saw her concert couple months ago, and when the first note of her "Er Quan Ying Yue" came out, I was in tear.
So, I plan to get an Erhu on my spring trip to China and start taking erhu lessons.
I guess all of you will see me in the erhu board more often.
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Post by davidmdahl on Jan 13, 2006 8:46:17 GMT
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Post by wfranklin on Feb 16, 2006 1:48:37 GMT
holy moly, that's the dude that teaches the chinese music ensemble class im taking this semester at my uni!!!!!!!!!!!!! sweet, i didnt know he was so well known |
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Feb 16, 2006 3:07:32 GMT
kriesler....hmm
in singapore, plyers are playing sain saens' Intro and rondo capricisco...
its very common.
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Post by davidbadagnani on Feb 16, 2006 8:29:10 GMT
Karen Han's solo sounded (at least in part) like "Csardas" by Vittorio Monti. But the fast part cuts out after a few bars. I think there was an edit in there.
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Post by sitorimon on Feb 16, 2006 14:06:37 GMT
I really liked Jiebing Chen's video - esential for me -a complete newbie at all this. Many thanks for posting!
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Post by maaltan on Feb 19, 2006 18:31:28 GMT
holy moly, that's the dude that teaches the chinese music ensemble class im taking this semester at my uni!!!!!!!!!!!!! sweet, i didnt know he was so well known That is my current "goal" in learning the erhu. I have fallen in love with that song. Of course, I allways yern for what i cannot have. I have just realized that that his erhu is tuned in the traditional "erquan" method (g3, d4) Or at lleast thats what my tuner program told me, although it keeps picking up on a harmonic around g5 (it flips from g3 to g5 when he plays the open inner string) My urgent question is. How do i tune it down a fifth? the strings are aweful loose and have no 'power" when i try it with my standard strings. I have read that there is a special taller erhu needed for bing's work. can it be done by just moving the inner d string to the outside and buying a heavier string for the new g? I do have to say i prefer the g-d tuneing. has more... heart in it i guess. Of course i tend toward more lower pitched compositions. All the learning material is in d/a so i stick with that. Should be a trivial conversion once you get the the 10th grade work (where the erquan spring sheet music is located in the green "exam" book i purchased "中国二胡考级曲集“) |
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Post by sanmenxia on Feb 19, 2006 19:10:46 GMT
There are special "erquan" strings made for playing "erquan yingyue", they're just thicker strings. As you've found out, you can't just tune down the normal strings, they'll be too loose. I think zhonghu strings would also work OK, though it's prob not ideal.
The best thing is to have 2 erhus, a normal one, and a lower pitched one for playing in ensembles and for "erquan yingyue".
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Post by davidmdahl on Feb 20, 2006 5:27:56 GMT
One of my erhu tune books is meant to be played with the erhu tuned a whole step down (C/G), and I really like it down there. For the really low stuff, I have a zhonghu, but maybe that has the wrong character for Erquan Yingyue. So far I have not needed a much lower-pitched erhu for ensemble-work. The best thing is to have 2 erhus, a normal one, and a lower pitched one for playing in ensembles and for "erquan yingyue". I am going to have to try this one on my wife. I could use a good rationalization to buy another erhu. <g> Best wishes, David |
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Post by sanmenxia on Feb 20, 2006 13:57:35 GMT
One of my erhu tune books is meant to be played with the erhu tuned a whole step down (C/G), The best thing is to have 2 erhus, a normal one, and a lower pitched one for playing in ensembles and for "erquan yingyue". I am going to have to try this one on my wife. I could use a good rationalization to buy another erhu. <g> Haha, while you're in the shop/store tell her you also need a gaohu, banhu, jinghu, yehu etc, for playing Cantonese/northern/Beijing opera etc music  . I think playing erquan with an erhu tuned down to C,G is a sort of compromise so that the normal erhu can be used, it's lower than D,A but not too low so the strings are too loose. |
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Post by davidmdahl on Feb 24, 2006 7:35:39 GMT
At my erhu lesson this evening, my teacher returned my zhonghu and mentioned that when he returns again to playing Erquan Yingyue, he wants to do it on zhonghu. He feels that stringing an erhu with the thick strings and tuning it low is a compromise, and that the better reflection <g> of the music comes out on a zhonghu.
This is a very intriguing suggestion, and now I am very interested to hear Erquan Yingyue on zhonghu. At least every other erhu CD includes Erquan, so there is no shortage of erhu performances, but are there any recordings available on zhonghu?
Best wishes,
David
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Feb 24, 2006 9:01:15 GMT
Hi!
Not that i know of, but i know my friend who won Singapore East Zone Specialty Instrument (non mainstream) on zhonghu playing erquan..
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