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Post by maaltan on Mar 29, 2006 22:27:14 GMT
does anybody have a real copy of zi zhu diao (sheet music)?
i am to about bar 6 of the main section and the melody is just becoming random notes to me. i hear proper recordings with the "flower notes" and its sounds ok but i can't figure out how they fit into the sheet music I have.
everything between " 3-1 '1-7-6-5 | 3-2-3-5 ... " to the last bars "'1-'2 7-6-5-3 | 6 - " become jibberish to me. I can't find the phrasing or direction of the piece.
I can probably end up mechnically playing this but its drudgery and difficult without being able to feel the direction of the song.
thanks
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Post by calden on Mar 29, 2006 22:31:31 GMT
I've got a copy of it - music and a recording. Which do you want? I may even have it already PDF'ed and ready to send. Or I can send a copy via snail old-fashioned mail. Or give me a call and I'll play it for you.
I know what you mean about suddenly turning to gibberish. This is where hours of having listened to tunes works very well. You'll have a "tune map" in your head of what the phrasing is, where to take "breaths," and where to alter the dynamics, all to make it sound like music instead of a bunch of notes.
Carlos
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Post by maaltan on Mar 30, 2006 2:44:05 GMT
You'll have a "tune map" in your head of what the phrasing is, where to take "breaths," and where to alter the dynamics, all to make it sound like music instead of a bunch of notes. Carlos Exactly, you said it so poetically I will PM you with delivery details. Thanks
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Post by maaltan on Apr 3, 2006 0:59:43 GMT
how do i play "丁"
it has a distinctive sound but i cant figure it out . its sort of lik a trill but then again it doesnt.
also, when performing slides do you usually slide with the finger that belongs on the beginning or ending note? or is that something that varies depending on following notes.
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Post by paulv on Apr 12, 2006 16:00:37 GMT
how do i play "丁" it has a distinctive sound but i cant figure it out . its sort of lik a trill but then again it doesnt. also, when performing slides do you usually slide with the finger that belongs on the beginning or ending note? or is that something that varies depending on following notes. Not sure about that symbol. For slides, there are several kinds. Which one are you asking about? Please reference the charts I posted. Regards, Paul
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Post by calden on Apr 12, 2006 19:18:54 GMT
About the ?:
From what my book says, It's like a very brief hammer-on just above the note (above in pitch) that is so light it's not even really sounding the note but more of an interruption of the main note. It's very common in Irish fiddling. EXTREMELY light touch with a finger above the main note.
Carlos
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Post by jdclay on Apr 28, 2006 3:39:43 GMT
Hi all! First post!
I am planning (really trying to make the jump) to buy a new Erhu, some bows, strings, and good rosin from Cadenza. I hope that this community can/will be able to make my step (leap) into the world of the Erhu a pleasant one.
PS- Hi YouLan (Yinhao)!
-- Justin
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Apr 28, 2006 5:35:56 GMT
Hi!
I got ur purchase request. I sent 2 emails to u, Please reply.
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Post by jdclay on Apr 28, 2006 5:48:04 GMT
Will do shortly!
Thanks!
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Post by YouLanFengChune on May 11, 2006 0:37:19 GMT
Moeny received. You are gonna get one vietnamese python one, with nice scales and thick skin. I skipped one japanese order just to ensure you get the stuff first. He ordered 20 one shot.
Singapore is beginning to distinguish itself. all erhu sold out abraod cos of 1) valid CITES license 2) high quality.
in Singapore, we dun sell so well, it hard to eductae ppl here. and we boobooed 1 batch in singapore.
Recenely, however, some singaporean chinese musci shoips had been inspected by our authorities for illegal erhu. Luckiliy i have my papers. its a responsibility. Soi please be patient. Sometimes, the papers may take a whoile longer.
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Post by jdclay on May 11, 2006 5:31:21 GMT
On average, how long do the CITES licenses take to be approved? Do they vary depending erhu to erhu?
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Post by YouLanFengChune on May 11, 2006 13:05:08 GMT
on the average 3 days. However, now CITES officers are paying attntion to illegal erhu sellers. It takes longer these days. But u'll get it 100%
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Post by jdclay on May 11, 2006 16:43:12 GMT
Well thats not bad at all. At least its not a huge beaurocracy.
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Post by karmeleon on Nov 20, 2006 5:26:20 GMT
Argh!!! to get rid of too much rosin, wash your (bow's) hair in nice shampoo with lukewarm water (about 40 degrees centigrade). Really? Just wash & airdry??
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Nov 20, 2006 23:57:37 GMT
YES, with shampoo is OK too!
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Post by jetz320 on Nov 21, 2006 0:19:50 GMT
How does the CITIES lisence work again? The seller that sells you the erhu gives it to you. And then you just show them it if they ask you about the instrument?
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Nov 21, 2006 0:29:26 GMT
CITES License is basically a Certificate from the CONVENTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL TRADE OF ENDANGERED SPECIES OF FLORA AND FAUNA.
It shows that the erhu has been made from legal sources of skin. ALL WTO countries are part of CITES. For products, only the CITES is required. PRESENTING THE CERT upon customs examination is all that is required. FOR raw materials, u need a lot of other papers which i usually handle everyday.
The problem with CHINA. I applied ofr 10 zhonghu and 10 gaohu to be sent out of China took 3 months.
Dealers cannot give u certificates WITHOUT the manufacturers giving them certificates. Its a "House that jack built story" snake slaughterer to skin trader, skin trader to erhu maker erhu maker to erhu retail shop, erhu retail shop to U. Buying from fantasia means u buy from the MAKER, reducing a lot of problems and unwanted costs. Hence we can give u CITES FOC
To help u, simply ATTACH the CITES onto the casing for the erhu and all will be well. You can request for a soft copy of it in case anything happens.
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Post by jetz320 on Nov 21, 2006 5:45:18 GMT
Thanks!!! I'll ask for one when I buy a new erhu.
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Post by karmeleon on Nov 22, 2006 14:37:03 GMT
YES, with shampoo is OK too! And put conditioner after that?
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Post by maaltan on Nov 22, 2006 23:02:18 GMT
you were probably joking but thats a good question.. the oils in conditioner would make the bow slip upon first thought. but then again the oils reinforce the hair making it possible last longer. So the question is will the oils cause more problems than they fix.
hmmm i have a bow near the end of its life. I might experiment when i have a chance.
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Post by calden on Nov 22, 2006 23:24:56 GMT
I don't know if it will help. The reason the hair has an end to life issue is because the little barbs on the hair shaft wear down and make it just too slippery to hold rosin or to grab the string. I think that any kind of conditioning would just treat the hair shaft and the barbs will erode regardless of what one might do. I suppose you could grind up some glass and glue it on, but that would not leave your strings feeling happy. I'm getting some horsehair from a luthier friend and trying some rehairing with some of my older bows. It's got to be less than $20 and 30 minutes or it's just not worth my time, though. Carlos
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Post by dsouthwood on Nov 23, 2006 1:57:40 GMT
I found a web site titled "The Physics Behind the Erhu, a Chinese Stringed Instrument," in which the author dismisses the "little barbs" theory on how the bow works. This is what she says: "The hairs of the bow are covered in rosin, which makes them grip the strings. It was originally thought that this string grippage was due to the barbs in the horsehair catching on the string, but tests using bows haired with fishing line (which is smooth) have disproven this, since the majority of players could not tell the difference between fishing line and horsehair." Here's a link to the site: triangular.stormloader.com/erhu.html. I always heard that it was the barbs, and that half the hairs in the bow were flipped end-to-end so that there would be barbs in optimum position for both up and down bow movements. This makes me wonder, though. It would make an interesting experiment.
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Post by calden on Nov 23, 2006 2:50:36 GMT
Wow! I'll have to ask my violin-bow maker friends about this! That was always my understanding.
Carlos
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Post by karmeleon on Nov 23, 2006 9:12:09 GMT
you were probably joking but thats a good question.. the oils in conditioner would make the bow slip upon first thought. but then again the oils reinforce the hair making it possible last longer. So the question is will the oils cause more problems than they fix. . Of course, I'm joking ! ;D Had the great opportunity yesterday bc my son's Erhu strings broke, so I didn't even need to take his bow out. I washed it like Yinhao said. Very happy that the dirt at the corner came out too! But found the bow hairs so smooth after it dried. Took me a long time to apply the rosin the first time after this "washing session". Can imagine if conditioner were used. Probably too smooth to even put the rosin on! Hey, Yinhao - can do the same with violin bowhair?? Looks tricky as the violin bowhair seems much much finer?
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Post by YouLanFengChune on Nov 23, 2006 9:23:51 GMT
hehehe
yes. I learnt that from violin people
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