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Post by diego on Feb 26, 2019 21:33:51 GMT
Hello everybody! First of all, I want to introduce myself because this is my first post here. I'm a 19 year old student from Spain. I fell in love with the Xiao a few months ago, after spending some time with a friend from China that plays the Xiao fantastically well. I immediately ordered one from RedMusicShop, more specifically this one: www.redmusicshop.com/Xiao/Professional%20Bamboo%20Flute%20Xiao,Pluggable,%203%20parts (F Key 8 holes). I've been learning for the past 3 weeks how to play it, but I've still got a lot to learn. The problem is that I don't think it's properly tuned. I've got musical experience, some years of playing the piano and the guitar, and some of the notes just don't sound right. Here's a video where I play a normal scale with this F Key 8 hole Xiao with the fingerings found on carrotmusic's website (excuse the terrible playing, I just picked it up quickly to record the video and I haven't been playing the instrument for that long): youtu.be/GExogMdLEO8I've also attached some images: imgur.com/a/M8QI2XWIs it my terrible playing or a problem with the instrument? In case of it being because of a manufacturing problem, how could I get it fixed? Would it be better to get a new one? If so, where can I find a good one that is under 150/200€? (I'm just a university student, so I can't afford spending too much on the Xiao!) Thank you very much for your help and best regards, Diego |
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Post by edcat7 on Feb 26, 2019 21:54:40 GMT
Hi Diego and welcome,
I don't play the xiao and others will surely answer your question. I have had similar problems with the hulusi and unfortunately nothing can be done. You take that risk when you buy online.
Are all the notes slightly out of tune or just one or two? Have you checked with a chromatic tuner?
If it is indeed the problem is with the xiao I would contact redmusicshop; I've had only good experiences with this company and they might be able to do a deal.
In future I would ask for a video demo for the particular instrument you are buying.
Best wishes,
Ed
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Post by diego on Feb 26, 2019 23:51:32 GMT
Hi Diego and welcome, I don't play the xiao and others will surely answer your question. I have had similar problems with the hulusi and unfortunately nothing can be done. You take that risk when you buy online. Are all the notes slightly out of tune or just one or two? Have you checked with a chromatic tuner? If it is indeed the problem is with the xiao I would contact redmusicshop; I've had only good experiences with this company and they might be able to do a deal. In future I would ask for a video demo for the particular instrument you are buying. Best wishes, Ed Thank you for your quick reply and welcome, Ed. Checking with the DaTuner app, the ones that are out of tune are the La and the Si, as well as being unable to play the second octave Do by covering all the holes but the thumb one, which I was told was an easy way to get to that higher Do, yet with the Xiao I have it just makes an out of tune sound that is nowhere near a Do. I've contacted RedMusicShop through Skype. I hope that we will end up figuring something out. Again, thanks and best regards, Diego. |
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Post by edcat7 on Feb 27, 2019 10:28:20 GMT
Diego,
I play the dizi and if all the notes are slightly out of tune, then with a two piece dizi that can be rectified. It can't be rectified if only one or two notes are out of tune. I'm not sure if the xiao comes in two pieces.
With regards to playing the second octave that down entirely to the player. The flow of air coming out from your mouth must be tiny and when you play the second octave you must angle the flow of air upwards at an angle of 45 degrees.
I would get someone who can play the xiao or flute to check it first.
Best wishes,
Ed
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Post by diego on Feb 27, 2019 10:51:53 GMT
Diego, I play the dizi and if all the notes are slightly out of tune, then with a two piece dizi that can be rectified. It can't be rectified if only one or two notes are out of tune. I'm not sure if the xiao comes in two pieces. With regards to playing the second octave that down entirely to the player. The flow of air coming out from your mouth must be tiny and when you play the second octave you must angle the flow of air upwards at an angle of 45 degrees. I would get someone who can play the xiao or flute to check it first. Best wishes, Ed Hi Ed, Checking again with the DaTuner app, yes, it is two/ almost three (and by "almost" I mean that it is a bit out of tune but not dramatically) that cannot be properly played. Mine is a three piece Xiao, although I think I've seen some on the web that come in 2 pieces. I've been able to play the second octave and I can get a good Do by covering all the holes and blowing out thinly, but iwhen uncovering the thumb hole, which I've been told should produce a higher octave Do, the flute produces a strange out of tune sound that is neither near La, Si or Do. I could try uploading a video of it later today. I got it checked by a friend of mine that plays the Xiao and apparently it is a manufacturing problem. I'll try to sort it out, then, with RedMusicShop. Thank you very much for your help, Ed! Best regards, Diego |
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Post by phoenixiao on Feb 27, 2019 15:45:47 GMT
I’ve learnt that the quality of Xiao can be inconsistent, especially with the notes Fa and Si. At times an alternative fingering method can solve the issue so you may wish to check with an experienced player or teacher. I’ve read of Red Music being reputable, so good to check with them.
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Post by diego on Feb 27, 2019 17:35:40 GMT
I’ve learnt that the quality of Xiao can be inconsistent, especially with the notes Fa and Si. At times an alternative fingering method can solve the issue so you may wish to check with an experienced player or teacher. I’ve read of Red Music being reputable, so good to check with them. Hi phoenixiao! Have you got any resources available about alternative fingering methods? I've been searching online, but no luck so far. Also, do you know where i can find a webstore with consistent quality Xiaos? Being a student, I can't afford spending so much on something that might turn out to be out of tune! Thank you very much for your help. Best regards, Diego |
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Post by dizixiao on Feb 27, 2019 22:34:59 GMT
Maybe you get a bad xiao. Redmusic should replace the one you have with a better one. I think there are only two ways to blow the C in second octave. The one with the open thumb hole is the easier way that take less effort. You should be able to play C in second octave easily. I find it easier than playing the lower C with all the hole close. You just bad luck and get a defected xiao. Also, the weather can effect the tuning of the xiao. Unless you play in a concert you should get 1 piece xiao. If you play solo then 1 piece is better.
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Post by meoweth on Apr 21, 2019 23:08:20 GMT
redmusic and other sellers touted on this forum are just resellers, they are not making them. The guys who make them are factories in china. The best ones have a good reputation, higher price ($30US+ starting price), and usually have a picture of a xiao master for marketing. But, just go onto taobao and find the ones that Chinese xiao players are buying. Most likely redmusic and the other resellers are buying from the same factory, and their business model is to mark it up 3X to make a profit and survive. Not to crap on them or anything, but you probably got a xiao that cost $3 US from taobao, what do you expect quality-wise?
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