Post by noktai on Nov 10, 2018 4:38:56 GMT
Hi! I don't actually play the Dizi, but I've been playing the ocarina and the tin whistle for a while. The tin whistle is usually played with a lot of ornaments that chinese music also uses (slides, taps, trills etc). I find that chinese music uses the ornaments in a different way which I much prefer.
Here's an example on the ocarina, it does lend itself quite well to chinese music if you ask me!
youtu.be/Z1SBqcOyPmw
I did find a list of all the different ornaments here soundofdragon.com/dizi/ .
I know there are unwritten "rules" for when to use which ornament but I can't quite lay my finger on it.
Here's kind of my conclusions so far. I believe the girl in the video uses the southern style, but I added the nothern style ornaments anyways.
(Southern style)
Dieyin 疊音 (‘layering note’)
Doesn't seem to be used so much? Really no clue when to use this one. I feel like the Dayin is used more often.
Dayin 打音 (‘marking note’)
Seems to be used when starting a phrase mostly, or when articulating a note in a fast passage. Not entirely sure which note in the passage should have this ornament though. Seems to be somewhere along the middle.
Lianyin 漣音 (‘ripple note’)
No clue. Alternative for a long note I would guess?
Chanyin 顫音 (‘trembling note’)
Seems the same as Lianyin to me.
Zengyin 贈音 (‘gift note’)
This one has a description on the usage at least! "This techniques is used in the end of a phrase/long tone by releasing the finger(s) immediately and stopping blowing at the same time"
Yiyin 倚音 (‘lining note’)
The girl in the video uses this one quite a lot, I love the sound! Seems to be used at the at of a phrase when there's a long note.
(Northern style)
Tuyin 吐音 (‘tongued note’)
Well tonguing is familiar to me so I get an idea on when to use it.
Huashe 花舌 (‘flower tongue’)
Only necessary in extremely fast passages for articulation.
Huayin 滑音 (‘sliding note’)
I don't the girl in the video uses a slide with multiple fingers. But I did notice in this Dizi video.
youtu.be/wul6nubmJdU
This one feels a bit more natural for me than the Yiyin.
Duoyin 剁音 (‘chopped note’)
Note sure if I understand this one.
Liyin 瀝音 (‘scattering note’)
Never seen this one so I can't quite get what it's supposed to sound like.
Fei 飛指 (‘flying fingers’)
Same as above, can't quite picture it.
Zhenyin 震音 (‘shaking note’)
Some sort of finger vibrato? Note sure, but I prefer to just use the diaphragm for vibrato.
Harmonics 泛音
Not really uses much for the ocarina I guess.
Houyin 喉音
This guy uses this a lot, I can understand when to use this. (This guy is absolutely amazing btw!)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2x0-vwdhiE
Anyone have any pointers on when the use which ornament? Thanks!
Here's an example on the ocarina, it does lend itself quite well to chinese music if you ask me!
youtu.be/Z1SBqcOyPmw
I did find a list of all the different ornaments here soundofdragon.com/dizi/ .
I know there are unwritten "rules" for when to use which ornament but I can't quite lay my finger on it.
Here's kind of my conclusions so far. I believe the girl in the video uses the southern style, but I added the nothern style ornaments anyways.
(Southern style)
Dieyin 疊音 (‘layering note’)
Doesn't seem to be used so much? Really no clue when to use this one. I feel like the Dayin is used more often.
Dayin 打音 (‘marking note’)
Seems to be used when starting a phrase mostly, or when articulating a note in a fast passage. Not entirely sure which note in the passage should have this ornament though. Seems to be somewhere along the middle.
Lianyin 漣音 (‘ripple note’)
No clue. Alternative for a long note I would guess?
Chanyin 顫音 (‘trembling note’)
Seems the same as Lianyin to me.
Zengyin 贈音 (‘gift note’)
This one has a description on the usage at least! "This techniques is used in the end of a phrase/long tone by releasing the finger(s) immediately and stopping blowing at the same time"
Yiyin 倚音 (‘lining note’)
The girl in the video uses this one quite a lot, I love the sound! Seems to be used at the at of a phrase when there's a long note.
(Northern style)
Tuyin 吐音 (‘tongued note’)
Well tonguing is familiar to me so I get an idea on when to use it.
Huashe 花舌 (‘flower tongue’)
Only necessary in extremely fast passages for articulation.
Huayin 滑音 (‘sliding note’)
I don't the girl in the video uses a slide with multiple fingers. But I did notice in this Dizi video.
youtu.be/wul6nubmJdU
This one feels a bit more natural for me than the Yiyin.
Duoyin 剁音 (‘chopped note’)
Note sure if I understand this one.
Liyin 瀝音 (‘scattering note’)
Never seen this one so I can't quite get what it's supposed to sound like.
Fei 飛指 (‘flying fingers’)
Same as above, can't quite picture it.
Zhenyin 震音 (‘shaking note’)
Some sort of finger vibrato? Note sure, but I prefer to just use the diaphragm for vibrato.
Harmonics 泛音
Not really uses much for the ocarina I guess.
Houyin 喉音
This guy uses this a lot, I can understand when to use this. (This guy is absolutely amazing btw!)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2x0-vwdhiE
Anyone have any pointers on when the use which ornament? Thanks!