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Post by willy on Mar 27, 2018 12:07:05 GMT
Hi all.
I am fairly new on here, started here yesterday..I be 74 this month playin Erhu for about a year maybe bit more.. Live on Ontario Canada.. Can not find a whole lot of info about erhu.. I been using Patty Chans book and some utube vids.. Was great to find this forum .. Tnx to those who make this happen..
I been messing with Erhu for more than a year. All I play over and over to listen are tunes in Subject box.. Mostly doing scales , exercises and learning jianpu to which I am getting it fairly quickly.. I know how to read western sheet music. I find jianpu so much easier.
What I would like to know is are these two songs considered for learning at all.. .??
What level of expertise on erhu is acceptable to start to learn these songs ? etc etc
Any other pertinent information would be ok too
Tnx
Willy
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Post by edcat7 on Mar 27, 2018 22:41:02 GMT
Jasmine Flower (or at least the main bit) is straight forward and if I remember correctly, is played in G. Moon Reflected on Second Spring is very difficult but I remember the first couple of lines are OK.
Ed
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Post by howiehobbit on Mar 28, 2018 23:14:43 GMT
Hi all. I am fairly new on here, started here yesterday..I be 74 this month playin Erhu for about a year maybe bit more.. Live on Ontario Canada.. Can not find a whole lot of info about erhu.. I been using Patty Chans book and some utube vids.. Was great to find this forum .. Tnx to those who make this happen.. I been messing with Erhu for more than a year. All I play over and over to listen are tunes in Subject box.. Mostly doing scales , exercises and learning jianpu to which I am getting it fairly quickly.. I know how to read western sheet music. I find jianpu so much easier. What I would like to know is are these two songs considered for learning at all.. .?? What level of expertise on erhu is acceptable to start to learn these songs ? etc etc Any other pertinent information would be ok too Tnx Willy Hey Willy, I thought I'd see if I can shed some light on your questions. I've been a violin player for over 20 years, and I don't think you're ever too old to learn. Sometimes, I find learning something later on in life is easier than learning something when you're young. I find that my attitude to playing the violin has changed dramatically nowadays compared to when I was only say 7 or 8 years old. I think any piece can be for learning, although I actually find I spend a lot more time nowadays doing scales and exercises rather than playing actual pieces. I used to find exercises and studies so boring, but as I have got older, I have come to embrace that they're the basis of playing any piece. Now, onto your question as to whether the two songs are considered for learning. I am of the opinion that ANY song can be for learning, to be honest. But only if you accept the realisation that you will NEVER be able to play it full speed and perfectly right away. Play slow, and use it to hone techniques you have been practising during exercises. As you play the piece slowly more and more, you will then find it easier to speed up. So in effect, anyone can play any piece in my opinion. It will just take time and patience. For example, I do not play the piano at all, but I sat down and over the course of a month taught myself the entire first movement of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata and can now also recite it, but do I actually know how to play anything else right now? No. But I know that If I simply start off slow, I can build it up with time. The skill of any musician is to apply basic techniques and apply it to new pieces. I guess this is why I now embrace those scales and exercises so much more than simply playing pieces.] I wouldn't focus too much on whether you have enough expertise or not. Practise your exercises, then apply the techniques to a very slowed down version of the songs, and see how you manage etc. But scales and bowing exercises are amazing but also highly underrated. H |
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Post by willy on Mar 29, 2018 13:53:16 GMT
Hi
There is an old saying in the art world.. The drawing is the bones of the painting..
Scales are the bones of music.. Any music and language.
And thats it! ;-)
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Post by ed on Mar 30, 2018 1:56:34 GMT
howiehobbit, I like the optimism of your belief - if I have it correctly - that anyone, given time and patience, can play anything. However, whilst this may actually be true, I am not sure it is good advice.
I have taught myself to play ErHu over several years and I have at times taken your approach. However I have suffered from it.
It is my personal experience that in learning anything one of the most serious mistakes one can make is to try hard pieces too early. In the case of the ErHu it leads to stress, damaged elbows, sore shoulders, poor technique and ultimately, all too often, to giving up entirely!
I would suggest that the whole first year be spent playing exercises from a book specially designed for beginners, there are several available.
Ed H
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Post by willy on Mar 30, 2018 15:09:55 GMT
Agree with both ...
I have played guitar for 60 years. Was 74 yesterday..
I firmly believe when one is learning tune/song it is best if you have it in your head.. Not a bit of it, all of it, or all of the part you are trying to play..
I guess folks call it Play by Ear..
Everyone knows Happy Birthday.. Pick up any instrument .., any,, even an elastic band, then poke around , pluck around, any around .. you will find the spots on the instrument with in a few minutes where the notes belong.
Then once you find the spots. WORK ON IT.. then continue on
Over the years I find this the 'best' way to learn.
After all very few people grab a sheet of music then play it with out going over it a few time..
and on and on I could go. hope you'all get the drift of what I am trying to get across.
Willy
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Post by howiehobbit on Mar 30, 2018 21:43:00 GMT
Hmmm. I wonder if I'm kind of cheating a bit, because having played the violin for over 20 years, I can pretty much identify where all the notes I need are simply because it's just a scientific fact as to where all the nodes and notes are, so perhaps I'm not in the best position to give beginner's advice. But I will reiterate again, the fact that I still spend most my time doing bowing exercises and scales show that you can't under estimate the importance of them!
But whilst poking at the instrument can help, I will still recommend you have lessons to drill in the basic skills in the first place.
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