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Post by chuser on Dec 14, 2016 17:46:55 GMT
I live in China. My girlfriend plays the guzheng and I want to share in her hobby. She bought a hulusi for me to learn so we can play together. However, I'm having trouble learning it. The songbook that it came with apparently assumes you already know how to play. There is not a single musical staff in the entire book, they have some proprietary notation using numbers instead.
I searched online and found a few web pages, but they are mostly trying to sell you a hulusi or just talk about the minority peoples of Yunnan. Do you know of some web pages in English that teach you how to play? Tell you what the parts of the instrument are, the fingerings, the notes it can play, the theory behind how it makes its sound, how to tongue the notes, how to breathe, embouchure, etc. The one I have is in the key of C. All I've found is the fingering chart that's been posted around.
Also if you could recommend a good beginner's hulusi I'd be much obliged. The one my gf got from Taobao seems pretty crappy even for a beginner.
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Post by edcat7 on Dec 14, 2016 19:43:59 GMT
Hi Chuser and welcome,
That's a lot of questions; I suggest since you're in China to find a DIZI teacher. I stress dizi teacher since self taught hulusi players are less likely to know how to 'double tongue'. A dizi teacher will know how to play a hulusi. With no prior musical knowledge I started tuition on the hulusi and within 8 lessons I learnt 'Phoenix tail bamboo under the moonlight', probably the best known hulusi tune and fortunately the easiest.
As regards buying a hulusi anyone will do, preferably with detachable pipes. I was lucky: I bought one for £6GBP including postage from China and the tone was so good my teacher uses it for performances.
Best wishes
Ed
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Post by chuser on Dec 14, 2016 20:16:08 GMT
Hmm, in my experience music teachers in China are terrible. Their lesson consists of them playing and you trying to follow them. Not really "teaching". I actually know how to double tongue as I played the trumpet in high school band.
I'm really looking for information about the hulusi in English. Do such web pages exist?
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Post by davidmdahl on Dec 14, 2016 20:17:21 GMT
Welcome to the forum, Chuser. There is not much useful information on the hulusi in English that I have found. There are a few books in English by Pat Missin, including "How to Play Bawu and Hulusi" and several tune books. I don't have the books, but it appears that staff notation is used. The books are available from Amazon.com. I don't know how you can order them from China.
I second Ed's advice to find a local teacher. You will learn a lot more about the jianpu (numeric) notation, technique, and the care and feeding of the hulusi from someone with experience.
Redmusicshop.com is in China and should be a good source of a good hulusi. If you can find a teacher or a good player, they are likely to have good suggestions.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by chuser on Dec 15, 2016 6:43:26 GMT
Eh, the local teachers are not great. A lot of them are barely competent. Their pedagogy is horrible. My girlfriend is learning the guzheng from a teacher and her method is to play and have my gf follow her. That's it. That's the whole instruction.
What I'm really looking for is resources online in English. I'd be very grateful if someone could give some links.
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Post by markymark on Sept 29, 2018 19:11:02 GMT
Hi Chuser and welcome, That's a lot of questions; I suggest since you're in China to find a DIZI teacher. I stress dizi teacher since self taught hulusi players are less likely to know how to 'double tongue'. A dizi teacher will know how to play a hulusi. With no prior musical knowledge I started tuition on the hulusi and within 8 lessons I learnt 'Phoenix tail bamboo under the moonlight', probably the best known hulusi tune and fortunately the easiest. As regards buying a hulusi anyone will do, preferably with detachable pipes. I was lucky: I bought one for £6GBP including postage from China and the tone was so good my teacher uses it for performances. Best wishes Ed
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Post by markymark on Sept 29, 2018 19:13:12 GMT
Hello edcat 7. Sorry to trouble you, but would you possibly have th sheet music or jianpu for the Phoenix tail tune.. Many thanks for any help you may be able to give..
Markymark.
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Post by d̗̰̗͆͘ǎ͔̱͈̰̬̫ͨ̌ͮͥ͗ͭ̕vid on Sept 30, 2018 3:21:17 GMT
Hello edcat 7. Sorry to trouble you, but would you possibly have th sheet music or jianpu for the Phoenix tail tune.. Many thanks for any help you may be able to give.. Markymark. If you haven't already, here's the link: zhaogepu.com/jianpu/28864.html月光下的凤尾竹(葫芦丝谱) Based on the NUS Centre of Arts, this is level 6(intermediate). Find easier songs to practice before this one. (although progress is quite fast)
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Post by edcat7 on Oct 2, 2018 8:24:15 GMT
Hello edcat 7. Sorry to trouble you, but would you possibly have th sheet music or jianpu for the Phoenix tail tune.. Many thanks for any help you may be able to give.. Markymark. If you haven't already, here's the link: zhaogepu.com/jianpu/28864.html月光下的凤尾竹(葫芦丝谱) Based on the NUS Centre of Arts, this is level 6(intermediate). Find easier songs to practice before this one. (although progress is quite fast) I tried the above link but a warning sign popped up advising the site was insecure. Guess I will have to upload my hand written score for Phoenix Tail...when I get round to learning how to do it.
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Post by d̗̰̗͆͘ǎ͔̱͈̰̬̫ͨ̌ͮͥ͗ͭ̕vid on Oct 2, 2018 17:07:15 GMT
If you haven't already, here's the link: zhaogepu.com/jianpu/28864.html月光下的凤尾竹(葫芦丝谱) Based on the NUS Centre of Arts, this is level 6(intermediate). Find easier songs to practice before this one. (although progress is quite fast) I tried the above link but a warning sign popped up advising the site was insecure. Guess I will have to upload my hand written score for Phoenix Tail...when I get round to learning how to do it. starvoid.proboards.com/thread/2944/reliable-sources-quality-images-scoresUse Firefox if you're concerned about the insecure site. Either way, you can still search the song by its Chinese name.
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