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Post by Si on Feb 2, 2007 8:39:53 GMT
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Post by guzhenglover on Feb 2, 2007 8:57:22 GMT
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Post by Charlie Huang on Feb 2, 2007 12:18:39 GMT
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Post by Si on Feb 3, 2007 0:34:36 GMT
oh what is that exactly
i have left it downloading in the office............220 odd MB
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Post by Charlie Huang on Feb 3, 2007 10:26:47 GMT
Qinqu Jicheng is a 16 volume set of books that are basically photographic reprints of famous qinpu of earlier times. Go here and check my list with info on which volume contains which qp: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QinpuIt is a very important collection of books, and as I said, you can't buy them that easily coz they're out of print. The ones you can buy are ex-library stuff. I'd download it whilst I can coz you can find out loads of stuff from that library of info, like rare finger techniques and notation. |
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Post by Si on Feb 3, 2007 11:20:21 GMT
On your wiki site it says that the Qinqu Jicheng is 18 vols.
Does this mean it is a copy of ALL the old qinpu mentioned in your table.
I notice you have not added the Chen Gong Liang Vol1, 2 qin pu.
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Post by Charlie Huang on Feb 3, 2007 15:45:51 GMT
The link only contains 16 volumes plus the contents page file. It does not contain the first series volume (which is redundant to include anyways), the 10th volume for some reason and the 15th volume (which is non-existant as it was never published.
It does not cover all the qinpu listed on my table. Look at the remarks column, there are codes which indicate which volume of QQJC has said qinpu. After vol. 17, they stopped publishing later ones, maybe because they have begun to publish facsimile qinpu which are more clearer than a photocopy reprint. If it did contain all the qp on my table, there would be at least a further 10 volumes to cover the rest...
I haven't put CGL's qinpu in because I do not have info on it, but if you be so kind as to give me biblographic info on it, I will stick it up.
Make sure you have the Chinese name, date of publication, no. of volumes (juan or ce), no. of scores, and the ISBN.
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Post by Si on Feb 4, 2007 16:39:04 GMT
Ok Ill scan it (if the photobuket is working).
I notice on your article that there is a qin pu from about 1100s. Did not not down the details but I thought the earliest was around 1400s.
Are any of the tunes in this 1100s qinpu still played today?
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Post by guzhenglover on Feb 5, 2007 2:37:21 GMT
Well I am glad I can be of some service, even just a little bit. As I said, I think it's wonderful how some guqin enthusiasts out there have shown (well, to me) unselfish guqin mateship i.e. they've been happy to share their music around with their "zhiyin". I first found it from a guqin enthusiast in Taiwan who made this available online. I offered to pay for it but s/he insisted that it was her/his pleasure and s/he didn't want any money involved. Then s/he posted another link online telling people that apparently the same volume has just been put up on a guqin website on Chinese mainland as well, which means further service to more players.
I realised that the 10th and the 15th volumes are missing - they made that clear on the original websites - but to me that's OK, as there's still A LOT to learn, if I ever get to learn all the pieces...!
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Post by Charlie Huang on Feb 5, 2007 10:42:28 GMT
Ok Ill scan it (if the photobuket is working). I notice on your article that there is a qin pu from about 1100s. Did not not down the details but I thought the earliest was around 1400s. Are any of the tunes in this 1100s qinpu still played today? Well, I assume you're on about the stuff from Shilin Guangji (Youlan and Gu Yuan are still being played of course). They only contain diaoyi and not full pieces. |
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Post by Si on Feb 6, 2007 12:24:27 GMT
here is the chen gong liang qinpu book info  |
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Post by Charlie Huang on Feb 6, 2007 15:37:40 GMT
Yes, but what is the title?!
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Post by Si on Feb 7, 2007 13:47:31 GMT
ok here is the front page - i dont have volume 1. if you need the details of the 2 cds that come with this qin pu - let me know  |
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Post by Charlie Huang on Feb 7, 2007 21:33:40 GMT
Volume one is the Yao Bingyan Tang dynasty finger techniques one.
I need to know if it is separated into juan and how many pieces does it contain.
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Post by Si on Feb 7, 2007 23:53:54 GMT
this one that i scanned is Vol 2 and it has 2 books within the hard binding.
the other one what does not have cds attached is vol 1 and I think it only has one book.
whats a juan?
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Post by Charlie Huang on Feb 8, 2007 9:34:32 GMT
Vol. 2 OF A SERIES, not of the same book!
juan means volume. E.g. SQMP has 3 juan, WZZQP has 5 juan, MAQP has 2 juan, etc; as opposed to ce [physical books].
How many melodies in the CGL book? Hurry so I can complete the entry!
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Post by Si on Feb 8, 2007 16:15:37 GMT
erm - 10 tunes with both the original copy from the orginal source and then translated into regular chinese 12345 type of notation.
wang you
ming jun
guzhu jun
dongting qui si
taoyuan chun xiao
dun shi cao
lonhshuo cao
gui qu lai ci
wen wang cao - (reason I bought the whole thing!)
theres on missing - i will scan the cds and you can translate them
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Post by Charlie Huang on Feb 9, 2007 10:10:25 GMT
Done
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Post by froj on May 9, 2007 22:18:51 GMT
wow I can't believe there's so many free guqin scores. Good quality scans too. I'm sure those will be great resources when I get going!!
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Post by Si on May 10, 2007 1:39:16 GMT
but you cant beat owning a real qin pu. To my western eyes they look great, just written in the wrong language.....
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Post by Si on May 12, 2007 16:31:18 GMT
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Post by Charlie Huang on May 12, 2007 22:50:15 GMT
They probably can. The only problem will be trying to pay for the goods...
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Post by guzhenglover on May 14, 2007 3:47:55 GMT
Not the best deals for qinpus, I am afraid, at least according to my experience.... Will be going to China - yeah! My very first trip! - any suggestion for essential guqin stopvers? Fancy those "cheap" antique qins (don't care for those imitations, though) |
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Post by Si on May 14, 2007 4:19:16 GMT
My teacher told me they have some good shops in Beijing. I will get address if you want.
Shanghai has too, but maybe they carry more in beijing. Im not speaking from personal knowledge though.
I did want to go to beijing partly to visit these shops and partly for fun. I think you just at least go one of these places. Unless you know a lot about qin quality I would not tramp all over china visiting the makers.
When you say antique what to you mean - with cracks on it or with old coffin wood.
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Post by Charlie Huang on May 14, 2007 8:03:53 GMT
When he says 'antique', it means fake ones. You can't get a proper antique qin unless you have the right connections in China and a huge wad of cash in hand.
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