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Post by blankso on Jul 23, 2011 20:35:24 GMT
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Post by mrbamboo on Jul 23, 2011 21:23:49 GMT
No idea. But I don't think so. Perhaps you could test one for the benefit of the forum...
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Post by sanmenxia on Jul 24, 2011 9:01:12 GMT
That type fits onto the violin tailpiece:  from www.violins.ca/info/tune_a_violin_fine_tuners.htmlso it's not going to work on the normal type of erhu without modification. But the self-contained type that fits only on the string does work. Top right in this pic:  |
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Post by davidmdahl on Jul 26, 2011 21:02:43 GMT
If you want fine tuners, simply tie a loop of string around each string above the qianjin. The loops are effective tuners, don't damage the strings or snag bow hairs, and have the advantage of a good price (free).
Best wishes,
David
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Post by blankso on Jul 28, 2011 4:03:47 GMT
If you want fine tuners, simply tie a loop of string around each string above the qianjin. The loops are effective tuners, don't damage the strings or snag bow hairs, and have the advantage of a good price (free). Best wishes, David Oh, good idea thanks. |
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Post by tryginseng on Sept 22, 2011 17:47:34 GMT
Hi, I just purchased some fine tuner to put on my erhu. I am going to wait till I get some more infor on your string. You are right about them tearing up your bow hairs - it seem it does not matter how carefull you are - evenutally you will tear your bow hairs - can you please give a little more details or a picture on how you set the strings - ( I am thinking, I play, I'm off, I adjust?, retie the string, play - check for the were it is on the tuner, than do it all over again - How will I adjust the string or lossen it without losing my old position - it seems each time I losen it ?? it get lose when I untie it or tighten it. do you put a slip knot on the end - you make is sound simple - am I just making a mountian our of a mohill?) thanks~
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Post by davidmdahl on Sept 22, 2011 19:13:54 GMT
The tuning loops are easier than that, tryginseng. I set the pegs so that a string is about in tune when the loop is about halfway between the qianjin and the peg. When I need a small pitch adjustment, I just move the loop a little higher or lower. It is not necessary to retie the loop unless it is too loose to raise the pitch of the string.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by davidmdahl on Sept 22, 2011 19:15:33 GMT
Here is a photo of a tuning loop on one string:  |
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Post by sanmenxia on Sept 23, 2011 0:32:42 GMT
With the fine tuners, you do need to make sure when your is bow hooked on the pegs you keep the hair away from the tuners.
When you unhook the bow off the pegs, hold the bow like you would when playing, and then with your fingers pull the hair away from the stick, like when bowing the D string, and then move it off the pegs. This will stop the hair touching the fine tuners.
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Post by teotionghok on Sept 25, 2011 17:04:02 GMT
I just recently bought some fine tuners from Eason and they are German Wittner brand... they're much smoother than the chinese fine tuners.
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Post by tryginseng on Sept 29, 2011 13:51:16 GMT
David, Thank you for your explanation on the tuner string! And for the picture! It sure is simple, I will try it tomorrow. I think sometimes we all have it in our mind that if we pay money or a lots of money for something, is has to be better. I guess that is true in most cases but, what does one mean by quality and will it make a difference in relationship to the price we pay. Llike your no cost fine tuner (saves the bow hairs too) - it works! Will the paid for tuner do a better job - may be?? but, will the difference even heard? I went to a erhu store in Chengdu China, 4 years ago to look at erhus. The owner could speak a little English and we has a little conversation. It was like we became instant friends. I asked him to look at one of the erhu on the rack. He took it down and I looked at it and saw the price tag 18,000 rmb, At that time it would cost me $2195.00 - this would be twice the cost of my ticket to get to China. I handed it back to him, and said, Wow! lots of money? he play a few note on it and tuned it and play it for me. He could really make it sound great! I asked him if he had less expensive erhu and he took another one off the rack for 290 rmb about $35. He than tuned it and played it for me - I smiled and said I can not hear a difference. He smiled back at me and he I no can not hear a difference either and winked at me with a smile and said - The skill of the person playing the erhu is what makes the difference. True or not true - I have a terrible ear for music -but, I found it to be interesting and wanted to share it with you.
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Post by johnniez on Mar 7, 2017 9:27:17 GMT
With the fine tuners, you do need to make sure when your is bow hooked on the pegs you keep the hair away from the tuners. When you unhook the bow off the pegs, hold the bow like you would when playing, and then with your fingers pull the hair away from the stick, like when bowing the D string, and then move it off the pegs. This will stop the hair touching the fine tuners. HI. Anyone had any issue with fine tuners breaking strings?? Does any polishing need to be done where the strings sit on the fine tuners so strings don't break or lengthen there life? tnx |
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Post by paulv on Mar 7, 2017 13:41:01 GMT
With the fine tuners, you do need to make sure when your is bow hooked on the pegs you keep the hair away from the tuners. When you unhook the bow off the pegs, hold the bow like you would when playing, and then with your fingers pull the hair away from the stick, like when bowing the D string, and then move it off the pegs. This will stop the hair touching the fine tuners. HI. Anyone had any issue with fine tuners breaking strings?? Does any polishing need to be done where the strings sit on the fine tuners so strings don't break or lengthen there life? tnx Johnnie, I've never had a string break from those metal fine tuners although I've seen them chew up the strings from the metal-to-metal contact. The idea to tuning with these (I think David already mentioned this)is to get as close as possible with the tuning pegs and just slightly adjust the metal fine tuners. Regarding the bow, I used to use the plastic strip bag a bow would come in to cover the bow for storage -- this saves the hairs from getting tangled with the fine tuners and eliminates the transfer of rosin from the bow to the strings where my fingers touch. Regards, paul... |
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Post by davidmdahl on Mar 8, 2017 17:58:40 GMT
I have not had trouble with string breakage from using the metal fine tuners, but they are hard on strings. They are harder on bow hair, which is why I switched to using the string loops. They work so well that I don't understand why anyone would pay good money for something that does not work as well and causes damage.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by johnniez on Mar 9, 2017 3:52:06 GMT
Johnnie, I've never had a string break from those metal fine tuners although I've seen them chew up the strings from the metal-to-metal contact. The idea to tuning with these (I think David already mentioned this)is to get as close as possible with the tuning pegs and just slightly adjust the metal fine tuners. Regarding the bow, I used to use the plastic strip bag a bow would come in to cover the bow for storage -- this saves the hairs from getting tangled with the fine tuners and eliminates the transfer of rosin from the bow to the strings where my fingers touch. Regards, paul... Hi Paul and others , I thought the bow hair would be a problem when I saw a pic of them on the strings. But, I bought a set anyway.. .. I know I's a dummie !!!!! What a great idea about the plastic that came with bow. Awesome.!! You should market it... ;-) ;-) Thanks a bunch feller's Johnnie |
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Post by johnniez on Mar 11, 2017 23:35:24 GMT
I've never had a string break from those metal fine tuners although I've seen them chew up the strings from the metal-to-metal contact. The idea to tuning with these (I think David already mentioned this)is to get as close as possible with the tuning pegs and just slightly adjust the metal fine tuners. Regarding the bow, I used to use the plastic strip bag a bow would come in to cover the bow for storage -- this saves the hairs from getting tangled with the fine tuners and eliminates the transfer of rosin from the bow to the strings where my fingers touch. Regards, paul... Ok thanks Paul Ok I got that part. tnx What do you do at the bottom near the bridge and damper..  When I put the bow on the pegs the bottom is by the side of the Tone box.. So I sit it over on the top of the tone box on the snake skin.. Not sure if that is right. I put it in the case.. Then when I go to take it out I see a hair or 3 stuck on the bridge. Lost a couple of hairs already.. I think I am doing something wrong.. I have looked every where on You tube also google and on and on and can not find anything on '' How do I pack and unpack my Erhu in and out of my case" not a thing. So maybe some one can make a suggestion or 4.. thanks Johnnie |
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Post by johnniez on Mar 11, 2017 23:43:33 GMT
I have not had trouble with string breakage from using the metal fine tuners, but they are hard on strings. They are harder on bow hair, which is why I switched to using the string loops. They work so well that I don't understand why anyone would pay good money for something that does not work as well and causes damage. Best wishes, David Hi Dave. Well I tried your idea of the string loops and it works very well. Nice and neat actually.. Think I will not use the metal tuners.. I just don't want to mess up my bow.. Thanks a bunch Johnnie |
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Post by yuhongmei123 on Jul 20, 2017 20:28:48 GMT
If you want fine tuners, simply tie a loop of string around each string above the qianjin. The loops are effective tuners, don't damage the strings or snag bow hairs, and have the advantage of a good price (free). Best wishes, David So two seperate loops? One around the outside string and one around the inside string? |
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Post by dawei on Jul 20, 2017 21:44:58 GMT
If you want fine tuners, simply tie a loop of string around each string above the qianjin. The loops are effective tuners, don't damage the strings or snag bow hairs, and have the advantage of a good price (free). Best wishes, David So two separate loops? One around the outside string and one around the inside string? Yes, it's the oldest and simplest way to do it, 2 loops between the pegs and qianjin. I've been trying some of the Chinese fine tuners...the jury's still out although they are convenient. |
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Post by yuhongmei123 on Jul 21, 2017 20:07:10 GMT
I am definetely going to try this one day. Thanks!
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When I put the bow on the pegs the bottom is by the side of the Tone box.. 
