hyun
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Post by hyun on Aug 15, 2015 9:33:18 GMT
Hi everyone,
I apologize again for my wrong spoken English...
I have a question about the attack of notes on the flute, Dizi and Xiao.
It seems to me that on a classic Western flute, we often have to attack each note ...
At the Irish flute, it's the opposite. Each note is played most often attacked without tongue but is blown continuously.
I would like to know what is with traditional Chinese music? How to know the notes that must be attack with the tongue or when it is necessary to blow continuously?
Thank you a lot.
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Post by Blue on Aug 15, 2015 15:00:12 GMT
When you mention "attack of notes" do you mean staccatissimo? Or do you mean "attack with the tongue" blowing a "too"? And "blowing continuously" mean blowing a "whoo"? I suspect you mean when to blow a "too" and a "whoo." Let's take this Jianpu fragment as an example. If a number has no loop above it, you have to blow a "too." Therefore, the first note in the jianpu above (1 only) has to be blown as a "too." If a number has a loop above it, you have to blow a "too" for the first number of the loop and a "whoo" for the rest of the numbers in the loop. The second and third note (1 & 2) in the jianpu fragment example are connected by a loop. Therefore, you blow a "too" for the second note and a "whoo" for the third note.
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hyun
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Post by hyun on Aug 15, 2015 17:39:36 GMT
Thank you for your answer !
I'm confused regarding the "Whoo" and "Too". I'm not particularly flutist and even less British or American to understand these words in English on music.
But when I mention "to attack each note", it is attacking with the tongue. For example make "TE" or "KE", regarding Western flute.
On lots of Jianpu partitions that don't have these loops. However when I listen a Youtube version I don't have the impression that musician attack each note with the tongue ...
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Post by edcat7 on Aug 15, 2015 23:37:11 GMT
It depends on the type of music and the key of the dizi. Hulusi music has a lot of double tongueing and so does music for higher key dizis.
From memory I think you prefer lower key dizis - you'll need an incredible amount of breath if you want to double tongue a low G dizi.
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Post by Blue on Aug 16, 2015 2:33:25 GMT
If you see "T" and "K" on top of the Jianpu, you're supposed to go "Too" and "Koo." That sounds similar to the "TE" or "KE" you're talking about and seems to match this flute lesson on double tonguing:
Or are you talking about staccatissimo:
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hyun
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Post by hyun on Aug 16, 2015 7:13:53 GMT
Okay. I can do "TE" or "KE" but I never try double tonguing, however what really ask myself what the problem chis linked notes or when to attack each note... You mentioned link, but on some partitions, there is not loops... But when I listen to Youtube, I sometimes feel that the musicians do not attack each note... I do not know if I'm clear ... In addition, my English does not permit me to express myself well...
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Post by Blue on Aug 16, 2015 14:31:24 GMT
What's your native language? If I have a friend who knows your language, maybe I'll forward your question in your native language to your friend.
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hyun
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Post by hyun on Aug 16, 2015 14:38:17 GMT
I contact you via private message, Blue.
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Post by Blue on Aug 16, 2015 15:44:05 GMT
Responded to your private message. We do have a user Flolei who natively speaks the same language as you do, so I think it is okay that you post your questions and concerns in your native language. The Flolei will be more than happy to respond.
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hyun
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Post by hyun on Aug 16, 2015 15:47:04 GMT
I know very well Flolei, but I do not always want to bother her with my beginner problems...
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