hyun
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Post by hyun on Apr 26, 2015 10:20:21 GMT
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Post by Blue on Apr 26, 2015 16:17:46 GMT
You already revealed that you like bass rather than treble. Therefore purchase a Qudi, which is lower pitched than the bangdi.
The D-pitched is a standard key, but the C-pitched is also very popular especially for those who prefer a lower pitch.
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Post by Blue on Apr 26, 2015 16:34:14 GMT
If you really can deal with the finger stretch on low-pitched flutes, you could also consider Bass-A or Bass-G pitched dizis. You did mention you can deal with the F-pitched xiao, which does have a challenging finger stretch.
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hyun
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Post by hyun on Apr 26, 2015 16:55:28 GMT
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Post by edcat7 on Apr 26, 2015 18:08:26 GMT
The first one is a fine buy but if you can stretch yourself I'd go for the DXH. The second one in my personal opinion is a bit gimmicky; I fear the extra spent on aesthetics wouldn't improve the tone.
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hyun
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Post by hyun on Apr 26, 2015 18:23:48 GMT
I prefer not to invest now at more than $ 110.
I have invested a lot for Xiao DXH thinking it was sure value, but he still cracked ...
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Post by edcat7 on Apr 26, 2015 19:06:52 GMT
I prefer not to invest now at more than $ 110. I have invested a lot for Xiao DXH thinking it was sure value, but he still cracked ... Cracking is due to low humidity: central heating during Winter particularly dries wooden instruments. Leaving them on a hot window sill or a car is also a no-no. I have a cheap cold mist room humidifier for my precious guitars when they're out of their cases but in your case the normal recommendation is to keep your wooden flutes in a sealable plastic bag. In the bag you can also put a plastic pot with drilled holes in the lid containing a moist (not wet) sponge. My teacher and I both have XB dizis but I think a DXH is worth paying the extra for. I'd have a word with Eason about your cracked DXH Xiao. I vaguely remember some of his dizis were guaranteed against cracking under normal conditions. Ed |
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hyun
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Post by hyun on Apr 26, 2015 19:58:10 GMT
But I was very careful ... he cracked shortly after I got it.
I hesitated between an already XB and DXH for Xiao, I'm not disappointed for purchasing DXH but besides the quality of the wood, I do not see does that change with the XB ...
So, I would not take the white dizi, I think turn to the XB or possibly the DXH ... I do not know!
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Post by Flolei on Apr 27, 2015 9:27:25 GMT
Hello, I'm happy that you decided to try also the dizi. The XB is very good, I'm sure you will be happy with it.
As you like lower tones, I think you would more appreciate the one in C.
Best regards,
Flo.
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hyun
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Post by hyun on Apr 27, 2015 11:39:03 GMT
Yes I think really take the XB. I don't doubt the quality of DXH, but it will change my Xiao. Anyway, I plan to buy on Eason is a very good seller. So XB or DXH, I would have no whatever happens good Dizi!  That way I'd have a DXH Xiao and Dizi XB! ^ _ ^ I like lower tones, but between the key D and C, which for a small hand? For play alone, is it better C or D? |
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Post by Flolei on Apr 27, 2015 13:21:07 GMT
To play alone is C ok. The finger stretch is not very big. As I remember that you didn't feel very comfortable with your xiao at the beginning, I really wouldn't recommend you a lower one, but I'm sure you will enjoy your C one.
If you would play with other Chinese instruments, it would be different: in that case, I would recommend a D one.
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hyun
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Post by hyun on Apr 28, 2015 17:59:47 GMT
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Post by Flolei on Apr 28, 2015 21:22:38 GMT
For the repertoire you can play all songs in both tones, it is not a big difference.
Qudi is higher than your xiao. The lowest note will be G (for C one) or A (for the D one), not C. It is a quite big difference.
On the recording it is a low A. It is the most challenging regarding the finger stretch. It is a long flute with only 6 holes, so the stretch between the two last holes is really large and fingering incomfortable.
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hyun
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Post by hyun on Apr 29, 2015 8:39:48 GMT
Yes, I love the sound of the low A, but i think it's very difficult to play with the finger stretch. Ok, so I'll stay on the D or C ...! ^ _ ^ On this video, is it a D or C key ? www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXrip7bwXF8 |
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Post by Flolei on Apr 29, 2015 9:32:37 GMT
Low A.
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Post by Flolei on Apr 29, 2015 9:35:26 GMT
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hyun
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Post by hyun on Apr 29, 2015 9:52:53 GMT
It's hard for me to make up my mind among all the beautiful dizi! I love the sound of the low A ...  |
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Post by Flolei on Apr 29, 2015 10:28:18 GMT
Then take a low G with 7 holes on the front. The stretch is less large and the repertoire is really wider.
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Post by Flolei on Apr 29, 2015 10:29:50 GMT
Another thing: low dizis are more expensive - bamboo is thicker.
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hyun
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Post by hyun on Apr 29, 2015 10:49:52 GMT
So, you suggest me a Xindi with G key ?
Xindi in G key is between Qudi in C and Xindi in A ?
What is the size of a Xindi in G ?
A Qudi in C is equivalent a western flute in terms of size and tessiture?
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Post by Flolei on Apr 29, 2015 11:28:48 GMT
No. Xindi in G is one tone lower than low A (and one tone higher than your F xiao). It is the equivalent of Irish flute in D. The tessiture is one tone higher than Western flute and it can reach only G of the third octave (instead of B). The only problem is that you need for low dizis more air than for qudi. A dizi is the most difficult because the stretch of both hands is very large. For low G, the problem is only the stretch of the left hand, which is not a so big problem.
Qudi in C is the equivalent of the alto recorder (flûte à bec alto), it is between tenor and treble recorders.
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hyun
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Post by hyun on Apr 29, 2015 12:26:15 GMT
Well... I didn't think, Qudi in C have a tessiture also acute...
I realize that large dizi are more difficult to breath and fingers.
However, my ears were always a little angry with high tones... ^ _ ^
The key problem, a very difficult choice for me ... ><
I like the deep sound of Xiao, and I would like the dizi do the same (more or less) with its own particular stamp...
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Post by Flolei on Apr 29, 2015 12:40:29 GMT
For me a C dizi is not so high because the membrane modifies the tone and makes the lowest tones louder and deeper and the higher tones lighter and less ear-piercing. However it is a matter of personal taste. It also depends what you would like to play with your dizi. Qudi is more "traditional" Chinese, but for Western music is low G more appropriate.
At your place I would start with a C one to get the right feeling with an instrument which is not too difficult to manage and buy a low dizi in a couple of years. So do I and I don't regret my choice. C or D dizi is still a good basis, higher and lower dizis are "upgrade" versions of the instrument. The dizis I use the most today are qudi C, D, E and low G. I love Bb and A ones, but play them less than the other ones.
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hyun
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Post by hyun on Apr 29, 2015 12:46:38 GMT
Alright, let's for a Qudi C by XB !
I really hope it will not be so acute for me, and that repertoire will allow me to play everything.
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Post by Flolei on Apr 29, 2015 12:52:42 GMT
C qudi is the same tone than Andean quena, if you know this instrument.
I don't know what you mean with "play everything". Dizi is actually quite typical instrument for Chinese music. More typical than xiao.
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