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Post by manjibu on Aug 19, 2014 8:46:42 GMT
Hi, Previously I bought unknown cheap Dizi from local shop, it's very bad quality and I was very disappointed. That's the first time I bought a musical instrument. I didn't know there is good and bad Dizi back then. Now I'm looking for good Dizi (in D key specifically). After some searching, I found this might be a good dizi for the price: Professional Bamboo Flute,Dizi Kit ,Pluggable,11 KeysWhat do you think? Is it worthed? Or is there other better alternative you could suggest? Note: the other wind instrument that I can play is ocarina. Thanks in advance. |
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Post by Flolei on Aug 19, 2014 9:14:00 GMT
Hello and welcome to the forum. In my opinion it is not a bad dizi. Ox-horn is artificial - what is normal for this price - but I think it is not a bad instrument. The seller is reliable. It is almost the same range as Xie bing "professional" level, but from a less famous maker/factory. Here is Xie bing sold bz Carrot (under Carrot name) and original signed Xie bing instrument: www.carrotmusic.com/servlet/the-11/Dizi-Shinobue-Shakuhachi-Flute/Detailwww.easonmusicstore.com/webshaper/store/viewProd.asp?pkProductItem=140If you can, buy the one from Eason, as they will control it before sending, which is important for middle range instuments. Of course the performance level of Xie Bing is still much better than the professional one. |
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Post by manjibu on Aug 19, 2014 10:21:25 GMT
Hi, Thanks for your welcome. I'm really confused now as I don't want to make same mistake. If possible I would like the one I will buy is the one that I will use and keep for long time. Unfortunately redmusicshop doesn't provide sound sample. Honestly, I don't like the sound of XieBing Dizi hearing from the demo video. It sounds sharp. Could it possible it's because of the video quality? For your information, this is the kind of Dizi sound that I'm looking for. Do you know which Dizi that has sound close to it? |
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Post by Flolei on Aug 19, 2014 11:56:37 GMT
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Post by manjibu on Aug 19, 2014 12:50:44 GMT
On the video you like, many effects (reverb and other effects) are used to modify the sound. It is not realistic at all. More realistic is for example this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTZ4lBJvNEcI see, It's hard to notice. Where in ocarina, it's very easy to tell if a song has been added with reverb or not. BTW, which tone do you want to buy? I heard the common song in Dizi is in Alto D, so that's what I planned to get. Or do you have other suggestion? Yes, I can hear that the concert grade Dizi sounds better. Wow, you play Dizi very good. I will contact redmusicshop to see if I can get a sample sound. Btw in this video, can you tell at 2:43 what is the brand of the Dizi? And what is the name of the mega concert grade 7 hole Dizi at 6:30? |
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Post by edcat7 on Aug 19, 2014 15:33:58 GMT
Hi Manjibu and welcome,
We're lucky to have someone as talented as Flo on the forum, she can make blowing milk bottles sound great. I have no idea what brand dizi is at 2.43 but look up purple bamboo and get the best you can afford. The recording of the 7 hole dizi, though it is said no recording effects have been added, to my ears I'd take that with a pinch of salt.
The 7 hole G dizi is much longer than a D dizi and you may initially have problems with the finger stretch. Interesting he played Gusu Xing on both dizis, though it was written for a C key in mind.
Good or indifferent I'm through with buying any more dizis. If you are serious about the dizi, I'd get some tuition and buy the best dizi you can afford. It's actually cheaper in the long run. ps My teacher bought a Xie Bing from China after hearing mine.
Ed
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Post by davidmdahl on Aug 19, 2014 16:19:18 GMT
Welcome to the forum, manjibu. I agree with Ed that trying to save money by buying a budget or middling quality dizi is a false economy. I have many such flutes that rarely get played. If you are just looking for something to blow, then just about anything is okay, but for a flute that is in tune and that has a good tone, that you expect to use for a long time, I suggest buying the best dizi you can afford. Fortunately, even expensive dizis are not really all that expensive compared with most other instruments. My recommendation is for a dizi by DXH, Dong Xue Hua. I have bought several from Eason Music, and they are wonderful. This was confirmed by an experienced dizi player who recently visited my teacher. This is several times the cost of the dizi you proposed, but I think you might be happier with the DXH. www.easonmusicstore.com/webshaper/store/viewProd.asp?pkProductItem=144In truth, I don't have any flutes by XB (Xie Bin), so can't really comment on them from personal experience. I do know from personal experience that the DXH flutes I have purchased from Eason Music have been consistently excellent. Best wishes, David |
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Post by Flolei on Aug 19, 2014 16:55:02 GMT
Ed, thanks for kind compliments. Unfortunately recordings are old and now - as I played mostly xiao this year - I really must to work very hard if I want to make the new recording of Gusuxing that I want to make before the presentation in front of the audience 3th of October. Of course, I'm happy that I improved my xiao playing, but I'm a little sad to see that I feel unsecure now while playing the dizi.
Of course, as David said, dizis by DXH are very good, but I don't think that the difference of price between Concert grade DXH and XB is justified in terms of quality and sound. Both choices are secure, you cannot make a wrong choice if you choose one of these dizis.
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Post by manjibu on Aug 19, 2014 18:52:31 GMT
Yes I can clearly heard that Dong Xue Hua Dizi has the best sound, but the price made me to consider too  I also want to ask about Dizi maintenance. I heard Dizi's bamboo can crack or split if there is sudden humidity change. Is that true? Anyone care to explain how to maintain a Dizi?
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Post by davidmdahl on Aug 19, 2014 20:34:13 GMT
A bamboo flute can crack for several reasons, the most common of which is abuse. Large variations of humidity and temperature are hard on wood and bamboo. Rules that will help avoid problems:
- keep in sealed plastic bag, if possible, such as large zip lock bag
- keep out of direct sunlight
- keep away from heat source, such as furnace vent
- avoid physical shocks, such as dropping, or using as a club to beat someone or something
- avoid playing in very hot or very cold environments
- avoid long playing time on a dry dizi, better to work up to longer playing times on successive days
The plastic bag helps to stabilize the humidity of the dizi. I have never had cracking problems with bamboo or wood flutes I stored this way.
Sometimes a bamboo flute is simply destined to crack, and there is nothing to be done to prevent it. For a really good or expensive cracked dizi, it may be worth have professionally fixed. I had a cracked bamboo Xiao repaired by a shakuhachi professional with excellent results, but the cost was almost the price of a new one.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by edcat7 on Aug 19, 2014 21:14:46 GMT
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Post by manjibu on Aug 20, 2014 4:06:34 GMT
Thanks, I read that wood ocarina needs to be oiled regularly. Do Dizi need too?
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Post by davidmdahl on Aug 20, 2014 8:01:41 GMT
I don't oil my bamboo flutes. I don't think that much if any oil will actually soak into the bamboo, and it is more likely to simply make a mess. I have oiled my wood flutes, and often the sound would improve immediately afterward, but not lastingly. I don't think that it helps avoid cracking. However, I try to abide with the instructions from the maker, if any.
Best wishes,
David
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Post by manjibu on Oct 4, 2014 11:35:06 GMT
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